[Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits? Dan2

[Donovan Arnold]

"I called him out saying this was a paper tiger, since
this resolution, unless nationwide,would really have
no effect on anyone or anything except to make
everyone feel good."

That is incorrect Mr. Carscallen. City, state, and
county governments can and do extend rights and
protections of their residents beyond that of the
federal government. (I knew my degree in political
science would come in handy one day!)

The city council just does not care about equality and
has done nothing but provide lip service and paper
tigers to end discrimination in our community. They
preach equality for the votes, but they do not do
anything to end discrimination.  


Donovan J Arnold 



--- Dan Carscallen <predator75 at moscow.com> wrote:

> Tom "Double SECRET Probation" Hansen generated the
> following:
> 
> "The only recent discussion that I recall concerning
> gays, lesbians and
> transgenders regarded their rights, not benefits"
> 
> >From what I gathered, the "rights" that were
> originally discussed were
> actually what most would consider "benefits". 
> Mainly because the
> originator of the subject wanted the city to adopt a
> resolution
> recognizing the equal "rights" of
> gay/lesbian/transgender/martian/klingon citizens.  I
> called him out
> saying this was a paper tiger, since this
> resolution, unless nationwide,
> would really have no effect on anyone or anything
> except to make
> everyone feel good.  Of course, someone said this
> would allow the city
> to extend benefits to said people, and the
> discussion, of course,
> degenerated from there.  
> 
> This is where Phil's question comes in.  And I find
> it a good one.
> 
> He must be another one of us brilliant and capable
> thinkers!
> 
> DC
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of
> Tom Hansen
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:46 AM
> To: 'Phil Nisbet'; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?
> 
> 
> Mr. Nesbitt stated:
> 
> "There was a spirited discussion on spreading
> benefits about for gays
> and 
> lesbians and transgenders, etc.  Though it has dried
> up, I was
> wondering,
> 
> Why is there a benefit for people simple because
> they happen to be
> sharing 
> the same bedroom?"
> 
> What "benefit" are you referring to, Mr. Nesbitt?
> 
> The only recent discussion that I recall concerning
> gays, lesbians and
> transgenders regarded their rights, not benefits.  
> 
> Many people (of which I am one) feel that these
> American citizens must
> be entitled to the same rights as their heterosexual
> counterparts,
> regardless of their race, sex, national origin, or
> sexual orientation.
> It's all right their in that nifty handbook: The
> Constitution of the
> United States of America.  You really ought to read
> it some time.  It
> may not contain all the sex and violence that is
> found in the Bible, but
> there are 300 million people that live by it (or
> ought to).
> 
> Take care, Moscow.
> 
> Tom "I'm straight, but not narrow" Hansen
> My spouse's significant other
> 
> We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp,
> some are pretty, some
> are dull, some have weird names, and all are
> different colors....but
> they all exist very nicely in the same box. 
> 
> 
> 
>
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