[Vision2020] Not On The Palouse, Not Ever (Update #59)

heirloom at moscow.com heirloom at moscow.com
Thu Jul 28 18:33:39 PDT 2005


Rose, Tom and Joan:

When you read something and then extrapolate to several wrong
conclusions I kinda start to wonder. I think, having not as 
yet read the actual letter from the President of the UoI, 
that the stipulation that is put on the serving will be 
observation only, Rose is quite possibly mistaken when she 
says: "The presence of third party ‘servers’ will ensure 
compliance with state regulations". Tom may also be mistaken 
when he states: “however, 'minors' ‘will be provided’ grape 
juice” when it states that grape juice will be provided. The 
actual statement in the paper is “Service of alcohol to be 
monitored by Sodexho”, not ‘served’ by Sodexho. There is a big
difference. I’m sure the Elders of Christ Church – Moscow, 
Trinity Reformed Church and Christ Church – Spokane will be 
the ones doing the serving.

Joan, your statement about: “If you want to conduct a 
full-alcohol worship service, then why conduct it in a 
state-owned building, thus subjecting yourselves to state 
law” I only have one thing to say please re-read STATUTE 73! 

Because y’all are only interested in the letter of the law 
I found it very informative when I came across this little 
story… Florida's wine criminals  - The Daytona Beach 
News-Journal reports (18 May 2005) that most people are 
surprised to discover this, but Florida law says that the 
importation of wine by anyone other than a licensed Florida 
alcohol distributor is a third-degree felony. A threat to 
the public order on a par with attacking somebody with a 
deadly weapon. This last session of the Legislature, 
lawmakers made it easier to attack somebody with a deadly 
weapon, but kept the full criminal penalties for buying 
wine over the Internet. Four bills to legalize Internet 
wine sales died quietly in committee without a vote.

Even with this very overarching law on the importation of 
wine, Florida law still has an exemption which states: 
(please note item (5))
564.03 --Wines; sacramental and religious purposes.-- 
(1) For the purpose of this section the term "wine" is 
hereby defined to mean wine, vinous spirits, or vinous liquors. 
(2) Any religious order, monastery, church or religious body, 
or any minister, pastor, priest, or rabbi thereof, may 
purchase wine for religious or sacramental purposes from 
any duly licensed wholesaler or retailer within the state, 
by obtaining a permit from the division for such purchases 
herein provided. 
(3) The division shall issue said permit upon sworn application, 
stating the name of the applicant, the religious purpose for 
which the wine is to be used, the amount to be purchased, and 
from whom the purchase is to be made. 
(4) The division for good cause may refuse to issue said permit. 
(5)Said wine and the sale thereof, when sold as herein provided 
and used for religious or sacramental purposes, shall be exempt 
from all other restrictions, regulations, and taxation now 
provided by the laws of the state for the sale and distribution 
of wine.

As for Joan’s very offensive comment: “flip the bird at the 
State of Idaho” well it’s just another fine example of her 
southern genteel upbringing.

Lemeno, Doug! (Rose, say it real fast…. (let me know))


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