[Vision2020] Opportunities for Research

Mon Jul 11 07:07:54 PDT 2005

Mr. Nisbet -

Perhaps your questions may be better answered if they were directed to the
UI College of Engineering.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
UI '96 (MIS)

 “Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'”

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Phil Nisbet
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:54 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Opportunities for Research

FYI, Tom

How much rape seed oil or canola do you see growing in Latah County?  How 
about soy beans?

What we have is wheat, lentils and trees.  Where is the research on them as 
a feedstock for biodiesel?

What catalysts did the U of I use?  Did they look at any local derived 
materials?  Or is it that the research was done with off the shelf catalysts

from the subsidaries of the Oil Companies?

This county has halloysite, kaolin and other clays suitable for making 
catalysts.  Where is the research on their use to make catalysts for 
biodiesel?

Lets face it, we have done wonderful things for ADM and for the boys over at

Monsanto, but unless we grow some of it in Idaho, how did a program using 
off the shelf catalysts and other people's crops do much for either a long 
term U of I program or the local community?

Phil Nisbet 

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:07 AM
To: 'Phil Nisbet'; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Opportunities for Research

FYI, Mr. Nisbet.

UI is actively researching bio-diesel.  The UI College of Engineering has
competed, and have done quite well, with many other universities in this
field.  The UI College of Engineering has presented prototype after
prototype after prototype right here on campus year after year after year.

Trust me.  Bio-diesel is not new here at UI.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are
dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but they all
exist very nicely in the same box. 

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Phil Nisbet
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:52 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Opportunities for Research

As each of us goes to the gas pump, we look at the rising price of energy, 
our dependency on overseas sources of hydrocarbon fuels and even the need 
for cleaner less environmentally harmful energy.  Then we pump our gas and 
drive home and forget about it.

After all, what can a place like Latah County contribute to a solution?  We 
have no oil or gas deposits.  We raise wheat not corn, so there is no 
ethanol program.

But we do have resources.  We have a University, trees and minerals.

Bio-diesel and Gas to Liquid (GTL) technology is spreading and has a fair 
amount of grant funding available for research and development.  Both those 
conversion are based on use of specialty clays as catalytic feedstock.  We 
have an abundance of those clays in Latah County.

The Bio-diesel folk start using corn based ethanol and the GTL folks start 
by converting methane gas to methanol.  Its actually fairly easy to use 
existing bacteria to turn wood waste into a brewed and distilled product, 
methanol, and then convert it to bio-diesel.

So we have the raw resources here and we have a Research University here to 
develop the technology.  There are even funds out there to assist in 
developing that technology for a program that could enhance the University 
of Idaho while decreasing foreign energy dependence and having a cleaner 
fuel to use.

If anybody is interested, New Zealand is already in production with GTL and 
Willie Nelson is using Bio-diesel.  Any bio-diesel fuels are getting a buck 
a gallon subsidy from the Feds right now as well and 60,000,000 gallons a 
year of it are being made.

Would it not be interesting to be part of the solution to having renewable 
hydrocarbon fuels?

Phil Nisbet

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