[Vision2020] The Future

[Donovan Arnold]

J Ford,

"You may state this is a "tongue in cheek" e-mail, but
you know very well this is how you want people to
perceive your thoughts to be," 

J Ford, just so we are clear. That email was making
fun of the attitude of many on Vision 2020, but not
Phil Nesbit. He knows that.

Although I may disagree with Phil Nesbit on issues
like water, he has class, and seems like a nice guy
who does not resort to name-calling and twisted
insults which is the mantra of the Nasty Nine Club,
especially when they are losing on the issues.  

I look forward to YOU pointing out nasty emails when
your friends continue with it in the future. I believe
Mr. Hansen already has called someone a “primate” in
his last post. But is that really surprising?

Donovan J Arnold



--- J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I don't believe I have ever read a more nasty,
> distasteful, vindictive, 
> inappropriate, spiteful, ugly, ugly e-mail in my
> life!  You may state this 
> is a "tongue in cheek" e-mail, but you know very
> well this is how you want 
> people to perceive your thoughts to be, sir (now
> THAT is tongue in cheek!)
> 
> Grow up!
> 
> J  ;)
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> >To: Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>,
> vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Future
> >Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Phil,
> >
> >You are a lowlife dumb ass ignoramus butt-face pea
> for
> >a brain, moron, and Doug Wilson peon with a bad
> hair
> >cut. Venom 2020 is not about building the community
> up
> >and helping people. Venom 2020 is about tearing
> down
> >the community and ripping people apart.
> >
> >They do not want unity, they want division.
> >
> >Venom 2020 is not about listening to people and
> >thinking about new ideas and respecting opinions.
> >
> >It is about bashing people, especially ones that
> have
> >"ideas".
> >
> >If people on Venom 2020 cannot bash your idea, or
> the
> >idea is over their heads, they will simply make a
> joke
> >about you, call you tiny brained, android, fat,
> ugly,
> >mean, bigoted, evil, or a follower of a very bad
> >religion and question your sanity.
> >
> >So Mr. Nibblebit, leave your rational, community
> >uniting, "hey I want positive constructive
> community
> >discussion", logical, non-straw-man, non-circular ,
> >non-red herring, arguments off this list. They do
> not
> >belong on Venom 2020. Only Ad Hominem personal
> attacks
> >  carry weight on Venom 2020.
> >
> >If Moscow and Latah are going to have a positive,
> >constructive, and meaningful future, Venom 2020 is
> >going to have no part in it!
> >
> >So grow a brain, get a face-lift, and get a life,
> you
> >worthless sorry excuse for a life. Stop with this
> >nano-technology crap you nano-brain!
> >
> >You have no right to breath MY air in MY community
> if
> >you do not believe as I do!
> >
> >Donovan J Arnold
> >
> >PS, For Mr. Hansen, this was a tongue in cheek
> email.
> >
> >"Reach out, reach out and CRUSH someone"--Cobra
> >Commander.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > As with so many of the organizations and
> > > institutions in the local area that
> > > lay claim to debating “The Future of Moscow”,
> this
> > > particular list seems
> > > more pent up on airing political differences
> that
> > > actually talking about the
> > > kind of community anybody wants to see in the
> > > future.  Insularity and clique
> > > support in attacks on opposition seems the rule,
> all
> > > focused on the here and
> > > now.
> > >
> > > Mark Solomon and I have posted, from two very
> > > differing views, on water
> > > resources issues.  There were very few responses
> or
> > > discussions from that.
> > > However, there is endless discussion of the love
> > > hate relationship between
> > > various religions here and endless posts from
> the “I
> > > Hate Bush” crowd of
> > > reposts of Editorial pages.
> > >
> > > And as the factions scream at each other here,
> form
> > > organizations to oppose
> > > each other, battle in the papers, in hearings
> and in
> > > the courts, what future
> > > does Moscow have?
> > >
> > > Let me give you a very concrete example of why
> this
> > > is important.
> > >
> > > Growth in the next decade or two in the US
> economy
> > > is going to be based on
> > > the emergence of the field of Nanotechnology.
> > > Universities are receiving
> > > close to a billion dollars a year in support
> from
> > > Federal budgets to study
> > > applications in this field and industry is
> starting
> > > to match and exceed that
> > > spending.  Moscow is a university town and while
> > > budgets are being cut in
> > > other areas, Nanotech is not being sliced down
> to
> > > size.
> > >
> > > So, where is the University of Idaho on
> > > Nanotechnology?  Right at the
> > > forefront, but not here in Moscow.
> > >
> > > While all here have been battling and calling
> names,
> > > the University has
> > > quietly shipped two of the biggest growth areas
> of
> > > Nanotechnology right the
> > > heck out of the Moscow area.  The Bio-medical
> > > Technology side was shipped up
> > > to Post Falls, so those personnel for the
> University
> > > do not live and
> > > contribute hare and their work will spawn nice
> clean
> > > new spin off jobs
> > > outside of Spokane.  The Nanotechnology
> Electronics
> > > folks are centered at a
> > > new institute in Boise and any jobs they spawn
> and
> > > the people working on
> > > them and the huge grants they get, all spread
> out in
> > > Ada not Latah County.
> > >
> > > If the current community of Moscow is such a
> > > wonderful place to be, why did
> > > our areas biggest employer decide, with
> absolutely
> > > no community input, to
> > > ship those jobs out of the area?  Could it be
> that
> > > they realize there is no
> > > future here in Moscow and like rats fleeing the
> > > ship, they are sending their
> > > best and brightest to open up new locations?
> > >
> > > But what the heck, let’s not discuss the future
> > > here.  Let us simply
> > > continue to back bite and back stab and name
> call
> > > and sh-t in our own nest.
> > > Then the last person out of the University of
> Idaho
> > > can please remember to
> > > shut off the lights, after all, we have to
> remember
> > > to conserve water and
> > > energy.
> > >
> > > Phil Nisbet
> > >
> > >
>
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