[Vision2020] Downtown Parking

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Sat Jan 29 10:57:28 PST 2005


Absolutely, Mr. Nelson.

Another hypothetical:  Supposing that those same 100 parking spaces
(estimated conservatively for the purpose of this illustration) were
utilized by daily shoppers (defined as people that go downtown to purchase
items and return home).  Supposing again that these same parking spaces were
utilized twice each day (again another conservative estimate).  Supposing
that the shoppers of each parked vehicle spent $2.00 each before returning
home (and yet again another conservative estimate).

Now the math:

100 parking spaces * 2 times used each day * $2.00 purchases * 5 days per
week = $2,000 per week revenue realized among downtown vendors (at a
bone-dry mimimum).

As Mr. Harkins mentioned in an earlier posting, it isn't rocket science.  It
is simple, basic logic and sound financial decision-making.

Take care,

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of James Nelson
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:33 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Downtown Parking

Visionaries,

It’s safe to say that the city planners meant “primary purpose” 
when they used the word “shopper.” This is why Moscow’s 
Comprehensive Plan uses the word “principal” in the first stated 
objective for downtown, which says, “Maintain the central business 
district as a principal retail shopping area in Moscow.” NSA 
students fill up spaces not to shop, but to sit in class. If they 
incidentally spend money, then well enough. But “incidental” 
shoppers do not visit downtown intending to shop.

Here’s a hypothetical: If 18 year old drives downtown and 
fills a parking space at the Jackson St. lot so that he can spend 
the day learning, then the NSA has done well. If the 18 year old 
spends $4 at the drug store on a Pepsi and Mars Bar, then the drug 
store has done okay. But if 150 teenagers with sparse allowances 
fill up the Jackson St. lot for an afternoon and deprive 150 
adults, whose median income exceeds $75,000, of convenient parking, 
then NSA does very well, but downtown businesses have just been 
shortchanged. (Re NSA faculty, however many there may be, I’m sure 
that when they’re not boycotting the Daily News, they might drop 
dime at Zumé Bakery.)

I don’t know if the parents of NSA students pay their taxes or not. 
But I do know that the majority of NSA students are from out of 
town. So if they pay their taxes, it’s not to Moscow.

Mr. Arnold asks, “Are you saying that one group of people is better 
than another group of people because they choose to spend their 
money on education rather than pizza or a movie?”

I answer, No, I’m saying that one group of people fails to meet the 
city’s objectives as defined in the Comprehensive Plan while they 
are spending their money on education.

But Mr. Arnold and I do have a point where we agree. He writes, 
“Selective enforcement of the law on the basis or religion is 
discrimination.” If the city fails to enforce the zoning code as it 
applies to NSA, then the city would be guilty of reverse 
discrimination, i.e., showing preference to one group of people at 
another’s expense. And in this case, downtown business owners who 
have complied with the law would be the wronged parties, as well as 
all citizens of Moscow who obey the law.

Sincerely,

James Nelson



Visionaries,

I would like to point out errors in reasoning and comprehension in 
Mr. Nelson’s stated observations.
“Ironically, NSA’s occupation of the Verizon building has created 
the need for additional downtown parking, not because they bring 
more shoppers to the area, but because they (faculty & students) 
use parking spaces that would otherwise be filled by “shoppers and 
employees.” In other words, NSA’s presence downtown frustrates 
specific objectives declared by the city planners. (Hopefully most 
people can distinguish between a student shopper and business 
shopper.)”

Well, ironically, NSA’s faculty and students do meet the definition 
of shoppers and employees. The employees provide a service to the 
students that they paid for in payments or in advance. I also a, 
willing to bet that the parents of those students that PAY for 
services provided by NSA are also TAXPAYERS. I am also willing to 
bet those capable of sending their children to a private school are 
also paying a higher portion of the taxes than the general 
population of Moscow that supports the roads and public utilities 
in the downtown area.

By saying, “(Hopefully most people can distinguish between a 
student shopper and business shopper.)” Are you saying that one 
group of people is better than another group of people because they 
choose to spend their money on education rather than pizza or a 
movie? Students bring in more than 60% of the money in the county, 
and I believe 80% of the money in the city.

Why isn’t anyone bitching about the Chamber of Commerce, DAC, CDHD, 
Goodwill, or the countless number of other services and offices 
upstairs in those buildings that don’t sell anything or are 
non-profit? Give me a break! Some people are just targeting the NSA 
because they don’t like them. It is that cut and dry. In the past, 
Verizon that was in the same place where NSA is now and that didn’t 
count for what is a commercial industry according to City Code 
because it wasn’t selling anything, it was just operating there.

Selective enforcement of the law on the basis or religion is discrimination.

Take care,

Donovan J Arnold

PS the Farmer’s Market also takes up downtown parking and is not a 
downtown business, that is against City Code too, should we ban 
that? Oh, wait! It is isn’t a religious event so it is OK to 
viiolate the law in this case--selective enforcement, right-o, I 
keep forgetting.

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