[Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence

[Shelly]

Thank you Joe for your kind words. Yes, everyone who is having unprotected
sex should be tested. And tested regularly.

Shelley 
 
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From: joekc at adelphia.net
Date: 12/26/05 19:33:42
To: Pat Kraut
Cc: vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence
 
Pat,
 
In all due respect, you are 'agreeing' -- in part -- to the fact that Mubita
is guilty of one or more criminal offenses. But this needs to be settled in
a court of law, not on Vision 2020. (Not that my outrage is any less than
yours, Pat.)
 
Whether or (better) HOW Moscow should be made aware that Mubita has AIDS --
this is a bit more difficult and a different issue all together.
 
Can't we separate society's ‘need to know’ from criminal accusations?
 
I think so. What everyone needs to know is that if you've ever had
unprotected sex you should get an AID's test. Let all the world know about
this fact! And thank you, Shelly, for making this a bit easier!
 
Joe
 
---- Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
> I agree also, this man apparently KNEW he had AIDS and has behaved with
arrogance and selfishness. The citizens of Moscow needed to be fully aware.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tbertruss at aol.com
>   To: CJs at Turbonet.com ; chasuk at gmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 5:13 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence
>
>
>
>   Shelley wrote:
>
>   I STRONGLY believe Mubita's name and photo need
>   to be out there to notify the possible victims THEY NEED TO BE TESTED.
>
>   I agree.
>
>   Shelley wrote:
>
>   Do you fully understand HIV?
>
>   I have posted detailed information to the Vision2020 list regarding
scientific and statistical information on HIV/AIDS, with references. 
Perhaps you missed these posts?
>
>   Shelley wrote:
>
>   Regarding face to face counseling, if you would have done your homework
>   before posting such ridiculous statements you would have known it was a
>   counselor" that reported to the police to do a "well check" regarding
Mubita
>   possible being suicidal.
>
>   My comments regarding Mubita's full understanding of what it means to be
HIV positive were meant for speculation only, since of course I do not have
access to all the facts in this case, nor do I think all the facts have been
discovered yet, or made public.
>
>   You may have info that leads you to draw definite conclusions on the
Mubita case, but one of my main points was that now that Mubita is not a
threat to the public, let the criminal justice system do its work to
determine Mubita's innocence or guilt.
>
>   On that note, perhaps you'd like to respond to the following points from
the same post you answered?
>
>   If we trust our legal system, why not respect the very important
principle of innocent until proven guilty, and let the system do its job?
>
>   There is no doubt that too much discussion of the certain guilt of an
accused facing charges can hamper the legal system in assuring a fair trial.
 Prosecutors and judges can feel pressure from the public to make decisions
based on a kind of mob frenzy, rather than the guide of lady justice
blindfolded holding the scales (fairness) and sword (the power of the legal
system).  Unbiased jurors can be hard to find when the press and media and
even list serves create a bias in huge numbers of people regarding a
specific criminal case.  Potential jurors need to state honestly that they
can listen to the evidence with an open mind in a trial.
>
>   Ted Moffett
>
>
>
>
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