[Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence

[Pat Kraut]

I have not said the 'gossip' I have heard and have not heard it from anyone
else on this site. I have read the story just as it is known from the
personal experience of some and the news reports from several locations. A
rehash of the news is not gossip. Hearing from someone the 'I heard' is
gossip and I have heard but will not repeat it on this site or anywhere
else! He will get as fair a trial as anyone else in Moscow.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
To: <Tbertruss at aol.com>; <CJs at Turbonet.com>; <chasuk at gmail.com>;
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence


Ted,

You wrote,
There is no doubt that too much discussion of the certain guilt of an
accused
>facing charges can hamper the legal system in assuring a fair trial.
>Prosecutors and judges can feel pressure from the public to make decisions
>based on a
>kind of mob frenzy, rather than the guide of lady justice blindfolded
>holding
>the scales (fairness) and sword (the power of the legal system).  Unbiased
>jurors can be hard to find when the press and media and even list serves
>create
>a bias in huge numbers of people regarding a specific criminal case.
>Potential jurors need to state honestly that they can listen to the
>evidence with an
>open mind in a trial.

          I agree, but wouldn't you say that this will happen with any
publised trail. With that being, I would have to figure that Mubata's
lawyers would certainly ask for jurors from elsewhere. Elsewhere meaning
that "they" haven't heard of all of the gossip going on in vision 2020. Call
me crazy.


>From: Tbertruss at aol.com
>To: CJs at Turbonet.com, chasuk at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence
>Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:13:46 EST
>
>
>Shelley wrote:
>
>I STRONGLY believe Mubita's name and photo need
>to be out there to notify the possible victims THEY NEED TO BE TESTED.
>
>I agree.
>
>Shelley wrote:
>
>Do you fully understand HIV?
>
>I have posted detailed information to the Vision2020 list regarding
>scientific and statistical information on HIV/AIDS, with references.
>Perhaps you
>missed these posts?
>
>Shelley wrote:
>
>Regarding face to face counseling, if you would have done your homework
>before posting such ridiculous statements you would have known it was a
>counselor" that reported to the police to do a "well check" regarding
>Mubita
>possible being suicidal.
>
>My comments regarding Mubita's full understanding of what it means to be
>HIV
>positive were meant for speculation only, since of course I do not have
>access
>to all the facts in this case, nor do I think all the facts have been
>discovered yet, or made public.
>
>You may have info that leads you to draw definite conclusions on the Mubita
>case, but one of my main points was that now that Mubita is not a threat to
>the
>public, let the criminal justice system do its work to determine Mubita's
>innocence or guilt.
>
>On that note, perhaps you'd like to respond to the following points from
>the
>same post you answered?
>
>If we trust our legal system, why not respect the very important principle
>of
>innocent until proven guilty, and let the system do its job?
>
>There is no doubt that too much discussion of the certain guilt of an
>accused
>facing charges can hamper the legal system in assuring a fair trial.
>Prosecutors and judges can feel pressure from the public to make decisions
>based on a
>kind of mob frenzy, rather than the guide of lady justice blindfolded
>holding
>the scales (fairness) and sword (the power of the legal system). Unbiased
>jurors can be hard to find when the press and media and even list serves
>create
>a bias in huge numbers of people regarding a specific criminal case.
>Potential jurors need to state honestly that they can listen to the
>evidence with an
>open mind in a trial.
>
>Ted Moffett


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