[Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence

[Shelly]

Sorry for the "shrillness." It just makes me so angry. I will try to "think"
about my responses a little better before posting.

 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Chasuk
Date: 12/24/05 02:00:54
To: Shelly; Vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Wayne's Analysis of Criminal Innocence
 
Shelly,
 
You are probably a nice person, and likewise probably
well-intentioned, but you are also sometimes uncomfortable to read for
all of your shrillness.
 
You write:
 
> Once again............. he should not have "uttered" "certain statements"
to his partners?
 
That isn't what Ted wrote.  He stated just the opposite, in fact.
Here is a deconstruction:
 
> Mubito's alleged crimes amount to nothing more than failing to utter
certain statements mandated by law for those HIV positive who know they are
positive,
 
This means that Mubito should have uttered certain statements to his
partners.  He failed to utter them, so this places him in the wrong.
Of course, because Mubito has not been convicted of anything, he
crimes are merely alleged.
 
You also write:
 
>So - seven people are lieing. They are "opening up their life" to the
courts at the expense of lieing. Wait - 8 people are lieing. Including
Mubita.
 
Ted didn't use the word "lieing." For that matter, nor did he use the
word "lying."  However, because we are innocent until proven guilty,
Ted rightfully makes no presumptions regarding Mubito or his alleged
victims.
 
You write:
 
> Once again, the media is reporting, along with the police department that
MUBITA KNEW HE WAS HIV POSITIVE!!!!!! Oh wait! They could be lieing?????
They almost always do, according to your analogy???
 
And then:
 
> Regarding face to face counseling, if you would have done your homework
before posting such ridiculous statements you would have known it was a 
counselor" that reported to the police to do a "well check" regarding Mubita
possible being suicidal. Who cares "how" he was notified of his status? HE
WAS NOTIFIED!!!! 5 TIMES!!!!!!! OH wait! The Health Department are also
liars.
 
And:
 
> Sorry Ted.................. the facts are out there. Especially regarding
Mubita as he "willingly" subjected individuals to a possible life of hell.
Granted, there are many drugs available and more on the rise to help insure
a prosperous life with HIV. I STRONGLY believe Mubita's name and photo need
to be out there to notify the possible victims THEY NEED TO BE TESTED. Why
can't you see this? Do you fully understand HIV? Maybe you should call the
Health Department and tell them everything you are stating here and see how
they react? Or better yet............... ask them all your questions. Oh
wait .... they will probably lie to you.
 
Do you know that every superfluous use of capitalization or
punctuation makes it impossible for most of us to take you seriously?
You are so dramatic that we imagine you turning purple and
hyperventilating.
 
It was especially impolite of you to impugn that Ted didn't understand HIV.
 
Mubito probably had unprotected sex with every one of his accusers,
which Ted wasn't disputing.  He was pointing out that 1) not every
crime is as straightforward as it initially appears; and 2) that a
clear, calm voice is ultimately more effective than hysterical
wailing.
 
Have a pleasant holiday, Shelly.
 
 
--
Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005
 
.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20051224/ce26fb8e/attachment-0001.htm