[Vision2020] Wal-Mart meeting

Tue Dec 20 14:01:19 PST 2005

Keely,

  "I think this is unfair.  Safeway's prices are usually pretty good, just as 
  Rosauer's are, and sometimes they're both even better than Winco.  Sometimes 
  not."

  It is not UNFAIR, to compare prices, selection, service, convenience,  and practices between business, it is how we decide where to shop. It  is called competition and it is what the US economy and capitalism is  based upon. 

 Safeway's prices are good for the time  pressured person with extra cash. It is not good for a family of more  than three that only gets the maximum amount of $200 a month in food  stamps. If they shop at Safeway they will not have enough food to last  the whole month, which would be irresponsible budgeting. 

  Everyone knows that Win-Co is the cheapest in town. Yes, a box of  cereal might be 50 cents cheaper at Safeway when they have a cereal  sale, but that is hardly worth a trip. 

 The Pharmacy does  have excellent service. However, so does Market time Drugs and  Wal-mart. The UI also, against my beliefs, has a tax-free government  supported pharmacy in competition with local business pharmacies. 

  Safeway is not a locally owned business and the food products being  sold by Wal-Mart are from North American farmers. Local businesses will  not be forced to close nor will sweat shops in China be used to produce  the food. You have no cause to oppose the addition of a grocery store  that will reduce the cost of food to thousands of Moscow residents that  are struggling to make ends meet other than for your personal  displeasure and cramping of style and high taste by having a Wal-Mart  being build next to your house. 

 So, yes, you are limiting  my options and choice, as well as reducing my income and standard of  living by preventing a grocery store of my choice, and the choice of  many others, from coming into the community. You are anti-choice Keely.

  "But please don't plan your monthly budget around the beneficient 
  presence in your life that is WalMart, because there's very little evidence 
  that WalMart is interested in yours or anyone else's wellbeing."

  Yes, they are, they want my money, and if they fulfill a need better  than someone else, they will get that money. If someone comes along  with cheaper prices than Wal-Mart, guess where I am going with my money?

  When I buy a Snicker's bar at Wal-mart for 55 cents, do you think it is  being made in a different factory from where I buy it for 85 cents at  Safeway or ShopKo? Do you think ShopKo, Target, and KMart pay their  sweat shop workers any more than Wal-mart? All this junk is made in the  same place, in the same factories for the same wages. Do not kid  yourself into thinking that buying an item at one store verses another  makes any difference, it does not. It just makes you think you did a  service to some factory worker half-way across the country. You did it  for you, not for them, you did not do anything for them. 

  Take Care,

  _DJA

keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:  I think this is unfair.  Safeway's prices are usually pretty good, just as 
Rosauer's are, and sometimes they're both even better than Winco.  Sometimes 
not.  Contrary to what Courtney says, those of us who are opposed to a 
WalMart Supercenter aren't trying to reduce your shopping choices -- there 
is a WalMart here already, and you can buy your pop and buns wherever you 
want.  The WalMart battle is about something else entirely, and unfairly 
maligning grocery stores is a poor way to make the pro-WalMart  point you 
want to.

I live right by Safeway, and so I shop there most often.  For all it's 
worth, I think the service there is great, especially in pharmacy, deli and 
produce.  If you want to shop at WalMart -- the one we have right here -- go 
ahead.  But please don't plan your monthly budget around the beneficient 
presence in your life that is WalMart, because there's very little evidence 
that WalMart is interested in yours or anyone else's wellbeing.

keely

From: Donovan Arnold 
To: Tom Hansen , vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart meeting
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:20:04 -0800 (PST)

"And just what is Safeway?"

   Safeway  is a giant convenience store that poor people cannot afford. 
Many of  their customers only go there to save time from running across 
town.  Compare, Safeway- $4.50 for a lb of meat, and  $5.50 for a 12 pack  
of soda. $2 for a bag of hamburger buns. Compare to Wal-Mart or Win-Co,  $5 
for a 20 pack of soda, 68 cents for a bag of hamburger buns, and  $2.25 for 
lb a meat. Feeding a family on $200 a month, what would you  do? Wal-Mart, 
Win-Co, and Safeway get almost all of their food goods  from US and Canadian 
farmers. I go to Safeway because it is close to my  apartment. There prices 
are through the roof, and their lines are long  and slow. Not to mention I 
frequently catch them ringing my food up for  a higher price then they 
advertised it to be, I caught them three times  in one month overcharging 
me, then you have to argue with over it,  and  half the time the price 
difference is not worth the arguing.  I will say though that Eric, the 
general manager, is nice guy.
  Wal-Mart  coming in on the east side will save me no less than $75 a 
month, and  for a college student, that is a great deal of money.

   -DJA

Tom Hansen  wrote:                    
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Arnold stated:

     “So my guess is that it [addition of  a Wal-Mart superstore] would have 
the same impact as it is having now with one  exception;

     The only thing new is a grocery store on  the east side of town.”

     And just what is Safeway?

     Tom Hansen
     Moscow, Idaho

         “I  think one of the best ways to support education is to make 
successful  private schools like Logos prosper through tax exemption.”

   - Donovan Arnold (July 11, 2005)

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