[Vision2020] Doug's downtown cathedral? (was NSA Zoning Trouble)

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Mon Dec 19 16:45:56 PST 2005


 Janesta, At the city council meeting on what I believe was 9 December in 
response to a question posed by Doug Wilson it was stated that the only 
place that their school could exist by right was in the university district. 
This is ridiculous. I don't foresee the U of I inviting competitors onto 
their turf any time soon. One might as well say that fish may only locate in 
ant farms.

GC.----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janesta Carcich" <janestacarcich at yahoo.com>
To: "Joan Opyr" <joanopyr at earthlink.net>; "Vision2020 Moscow" 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Cc: "Pam Palmer" <ppalmer at moscow.com>; "Linda Pall" <lpall at moscow.com>; 
"Nancy Chaney" <nchaney at moscow.com>; "Lois Blackburn" 
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Doug's downtown cathedral? (was NSA Zoning 
Trouble)


> Has Doug considered the Tidyman's property. It looks
> HUGE, a college would fit, move the high school there,
> build a church. The Eastside of town is growing by
> leaps and bounds. It would make a lovely campus
> site... the trail going to Troy would be fun for PE,
> as well as botony class, etc. Then put in that Olive
> Garden. Yummmmmmmmmm! rent out, or use the office
> space of the building.
>
> But, is Tidymans zoned for something like that?
>
> Janesta Carcich
>
>
>
> --- Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> On 19 Dec 2005, at 08:20, Michael wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Crabtree Writes:
>> >
>> > This is exactly the kind of post that lured me
>> into the original
>> > donnybrook a la Mack's trailer court. Does it ever
>> occur to folks that
>> > others might not be interested in your thoughts
>> and plans for their
>> > property? I am not a engineer or a building
>> contractor but I am fairly
>> > sure that there is no way the scattaboe could be
>> modified to become a
>> > meeting hall sufficient to holding several hundred
>> people. Certainly
>> > not via sweat equity.
>> >
>> > I think that the "zoning problem" will soon be
>> best solved by the
>> > council changing the code and the comprehensive
>> plan will do what all
>> > plans do. Evolve.
>> >
>> > Me:
>> >
>> > I am a member of Christ Church, I painted the
>> entire outside of NSA, I
>> > have been a student at NSA two different times,
>> and I'd prefer not to
>> > worship in a basketball court. I was interested in
>> Joan's thoughts;
>> > and I said "IF" NSA had to move, this would be a
>> good idea. I was
>> > highlighting the more constructive nature of her
>> post and the fact
>> > that her agenda is apparently not to run Christ
>> Church into Montana. I
>> > am also a builder, and my hunch is that the
>> building could be
>> > remodeled for this use (although I could be
>> wrong). But my elder has
>> > told me not to write anything here that is not
>> just about my 'personal
>> > issues,' so I'll plan on leaving at that.
>> >
>> > Michael Metzler
>>
>>
>> I appreciate Michael's response.  As for G.
>> Crabtree, I have told many
>> others and now I tell you: don't try to teach your
>> grandmother to suck
>> eggs.  I'm sure it's the case that Doug Wilson is
>> *not* interested in
>> my solutions; he has only ever displayed an interest
>> in his own
>> solutions.  Quelle surprise.  But I don't really
>> offer these
>> zoning/usage suggestions for Mr. Wilson's
>> edification.  I offered this
>> one as an example to City Council of an alternative
>> (and legal) use for
>> the Skattaboe Building.  Some seem to be under the
>> impression that if
>> NSA cannot be housed in the Skattaboe, then the
>> building must be razed
>> to the ground.  This is nonsense, and it is not what
>> I would hope for
>> or want.  I happen to find the building -- and its
>> NSA renovations -- 
>> beautiful.  I just agree with EXISTING CITY CODE
>> that educational
>> institutions do not belong downtown.  Period.  No
>> arm-waving.  No
>> panic.  No need to tear up our comprehensive plan to
>> "save" NSA.  The
>> college is in no danger; it's just in the wrong
>> location.  Yosela
>> bubela, so move it, already!
>>
>> Just for the record, as long as the solution to
>> NSA's zoning problem
>> doesn't involve the decimation of downtown retail, I
>> don't really care
>> what Doug does with his building.  Personally, I'm
>> hoping he'll turn
>> the place into an Olive Garden.  I love their
>> breadsticks.
>>
>> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>> www.joanopyr.com
>>
>> >
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