[Vision2020] Saturday's paper
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Sun Dec 18 13:19:53 PST 2005
Saundra asks:
"Isn't the purpose of bail just to make sure the defendant shows up for trial, *not* to
act as a punishment before guilt is determined?"
There are several factors to be considered in setting bail. One of them is the probability of danger to the community if the defendant is released. Another is the probability of the risk of flight. Another is the strength of the prima facie case shown.
W.
----- Original Message -----
From: Shelly
To: janestacarcich at yahoo.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; sslund at adelphia.net
Cc: thansen at moscow.com ; deco at moscow.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper
Hi Saundra,
Yes, he is presumed innocent till proven guilty. Blood tests don't lie.
I do have a question for you. How do you think this situation should have been handled? That is if differently than how it is/was.
We have heard both sides, according to The Latah Eagles interview with Mr. Mubita. I would be happy to send you that email if you missed it.
Shelley Roderick
-------Original Message-------
From: Saundra Lund
Date: 12/18/05 10:31:21
To: 'Janesta Carcich'; 'Vision 2020'
Cc: 'Tom Hansen'; 'Art Deco'
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper
Hi Janesta & Visionaries:
Janesta, you wrote:
"He needs to be punished. Jail is punishment."
I don't mean to be picking on you, but did I miss something? You know,
something like the trial, judgment, and sentencing? What happened to the
presumption of innocence?
Also, can anyone share with us how bond amount is determined? Isn't the
purpose of bail just to make sure the defendant shows up for trial, *not* to
act as a punishment before guilt is determined?
Finally, I just want to add that with the reaction I've seen with respect to
this alleged situation, it's no wonder those in our community who are HIV+
(and you are living in a fairyland if you think he's the only one) keep it a
deep, dark secret.
I'd like to remind folks that there are ***always*** at least two sides to a
story, and we've not even heard one side.
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
Edmund Burke
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Janesta Carcich
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:57 AM
To: Tom Hansen; 'Art Deco'; 'Vision 2020'
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper
No. he needs to stay in the Hotel Latah. I would much rather pay for him to
be there, health care included, than to be at home. He needs to be punished.
Jail is punishment. Staying home, watching tv, etc., is not punishment.
Janesta
--- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> Perhaps, if Kenay were to be released on bond, he should be placed
> under house arrest and fitted with one of them nice shiny black
> bracelets.
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> Thoughts?
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> Tom Hansen
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> Moscow, Idaho
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> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
> arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather
> to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
> thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
> ride!'"
>
> _____
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> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Art Deco
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:15 AM
> To: Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper
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> Shelley,
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> As I understand it, his bail is now set for $20,000.
> This means he could
> purchase a bail bond for $2,000.
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> Given the possible/probable consequences of and the possible
> continuance of his alleged behavior if he were to be bailed, $2,000 is
> a ridiculously small amount to guarantee his appearance to answer the
> several charges against him and to keep him from fleeing. [Remember
> Fredrick Russell.]
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>
> Perhaps after the preliminary hearing on Tuesday, his bail amount will
> be increased, if the prosecutor requests it and magistrate Hamlett
> sees fit to agree.
>
>
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Shelly <mailto:CJs at turbonet.com>
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> To: mdoyle at dnews.com
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> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; smcclure at dnews.com
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> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:07 AM
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> Subject: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper
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> Megan - is Kenay's "bond" set for $20,000.00 or his "bail?"
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> Shelley Roderick
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