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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=4>Saundra asks:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>"Isn't the </FONT><FONT face=Verdana>purpose of bail
just to make sure the defendant shows up for trial, *not* to</FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>act as a punishment before guilt is
determined?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=4>There are several factors to be considered in
setting bail. One of them is the probability of danger to the
community if the defendant is released. Another is the probability of the
risk of flight. Another is the strength of the <EM>prima facie</EM>
case shown.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=4>W.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=CJs@turbonet.com href="mailto:CJs@turbonet.com">Shelly</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=janestacarcich@yahoo.com
href="mailto:janestacarcich@yahoo.com">janestacarcich@yahoo.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=sslund@adelphia.net
href="mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">sslund@adelphia.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:46
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Saturday's
paper</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Saundra,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes, he is presumed innocent till proven guilty. Blood tests don't
lie.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I do have a question for you. How do you think this situation
should have been handled? That is if differently than how it
is/was.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We have heard both sides, according to The Latah Eagles interview
with Mr. Mubita. I would be happy to send you that email if you missed
it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Shelley Roderick </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original
Message-------</I></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A
href="mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">Saundra Lund</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 12/18/05
10:31:21</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A
href="mailto:janestacarcich@yahoo.com">'Janesta Carcich'</A>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision 2020'</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Cc:</B></I> <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">'Tom Hansen'</A>; <A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">'Art Deco'</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> RE:
[Vision2020] Saturday's paper</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hi Janesta & Visionaries:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Janesta, you wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>"He needs to be punished. Jail is punishment."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I don't mean to be picking on you, but did I miss
something? You know,</DIV>
<DIV>something like the trial, judgment, and sentencing? What
happened to the</DIV>
<DIV>presumption of innocence?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also, can anyone share with us how bond amount is
determined? Isn't the</DIV>
<DIV>purpose of bail just to make sure the defendant shows up for trial,
*not* to</DIV>
<DIV>act as a punishment before guilt is determined?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Finally, I just want to add that with the reaction I've seen with
respect to</DIV>
<DIV>this alleged situation, it's no wonder those in our community who
are HIV+</DIV>
<DIV>(and you are living in a fairyland if you think he's the only one)
keep it a</DIV>
<DIV>deep, dark secret.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'd like to remind folks that there are ***always*** at least two
sides to a</DIV>
<DIV>story, and we've not even heard one side.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, ID</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people
to do</DIV>
<DIV>nothing.</DIV>
<DIV>Edmund Burke</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2005, Saundra
Lund.</DIV>
<DIV>Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
forum</DIV>
<DIV>without the express written permission of the author.*****</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV>From: <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>
[<A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>]</DIV>
<DIV>On Behalf Of Janesta Carcich</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV>To: Tom Hansen; 'Art Deco'; 'Vision 2020'</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>No. he needs to stay in the Hotel Latah. I would much rather pay
for him to</DIV>
<DIV>be there, health care included, than to be at home. He needs to be
punished.</DIV>
<DIV>Jail is punishment. Staying home, watching tv, etc., is not
punishment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Janesta</DIV>
<DIV>--- Tom Hansen <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> Perhaps, if Kenay were to be released on bond, he should be
placed</DIV>
<DIV>> under house arrest and fitted with one of them nice shiny
black</DIV>
<DIV>> bracelets.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Thoughts?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of</DIV>
<DIV>> arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but
rather</DIV>
<DIV>> to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the
other, body</DIV>
<DIV>> thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO.
What a</DIV>
<DIV>> ride!'"</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> _____</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> From: <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>> [<A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>]</DIV>
<DIV>> On Behalf Of Art Deco</DIV>
<DIV>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:15 AM</DIV>
<DIV>> To: Vision 2020</DIV>
<DIV>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Shelley,</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> As I understand it, his bail is now set for $20,000.</DIV>
<DIV>> This means he could</DIV>
<DIV>> purchase a bail bond for $2,000.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Given the possible/probable consequences of and the
possible</DIV>
<DIV>> continuance of his alleged behavior if he were to be bailed,
$2,000 is</DIV>
<DIV>> a ridiculously small amount to guarantee his appearance to
answer the</DIV>
<DIV>> several charges against him and to keep him from
fleeing. [Remember</DIV>
<DIV>> Fredrick Russell.]</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Perhaps after the preliminary hearing on Tuesday, his bail
amount will</DIV>
<DIV>> be increased, if the prosecutor requests it and magistrate
Hamlett</DIV>
<DIV>> sees fit to agree.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)</DIV>
<DIV>> <A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> ----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> From: Shelly <<A
href="mailto:CJs@turbonet.com">mailto:CJs@turbonet.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> To: <A
href="mailto:mdoyle@dnews.com">mdoyle@dnews.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Cc: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
href="mailto:smcclure@dnews.com">smcclure@dnews.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:07 AM</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Subject: [Vision2020] Saturday's paper</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Megan - is Kenay's "bond" set for $20,000.00 or his
"bail?"</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Shelley Roderick</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
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