[Vision2020] Shame on you Crabtree

[Phil Nisbet]

Your awareness cycle must indeed be waning fast Hanson.  REMF has been in 
circulation as a standard term since as least the early sixties that I can 
directly testify to.  It may have been in use earlier, I will have to check 
with my infantry branch father to be certain.

And double dipper refers, naturally, to those who retire and then seek and 
obtain state or federal employment; you have to know that full well.

You’re not a member of the VFW.  I do not believe you are a member of the 
Legion either.  I think I can speak for any number of other vets who are 
just about feed up with your constant droning about your 20 years of 
service.  I am sure that many here think that you are carrying that 
disability due to wounding in battle, rather than the truth, that you were 
accidentally injured on the job at a training site in Germany, far from the 
sound of shots fired in anger.

In fact, the ten years Chas served as an Air Force EM were probably as 
hazardous as anything that you ever had to do for most of your life in the 
service.  He gets no benefits for the service he did for his country.

When fellow Vet and VFW post Commander Don Meyer ran for City Council, where 
was your support for a guy who has really spent his time doing for other 
vets?  Other vets who post to this board worked for his election, where were 
you who constantly wave your service in everybody's face?

You make a habit of tearing up people on this list, Hanson.  Far worse 
things have been said by you about others here.  You have also not jumped to 
call time out when nasty things have been put forward in general.  I do not 
seem to recall that you were jumping about calling foul when your buddy 
Wayne posted obscene graphic art about me, just as a recent example.

I find it interesting that you close by waving the Xmass flag for sympathy.  
Which exact part of the fact that I am not a Christian is not plain to you 
Mr. Hanson?  You have spent the better part of your time on this list 
beating the paste out of your fellow Xtains, but I am sure that they will 
have some sympathy for you.  Frankly, you need to get a piece of your Xmass 
spirit and try to be nice to some of your fellow Democrats like Donovan, a 
person you have had loads of fun pounding to puddles with a lot worse than 
simpering douche bag.  Or maybe you can see Dan Carscallan for a little 
sympathy, after crapping all over him and make with a little of your 
Christian charity.

Hanukkah ain’t Christmas last I checked.  In the spirit of Judah the Hammer, 
seasons greeting right back at you Hanson.

Phil Nisbet



>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>To: "'Phil Nisbet'" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Shame on you Crabtree
>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:37:33 -0800
>
>Greetings Visionaires -
>
>Mr. Nisbet stated:
>
>"I was actually pretty unhappy about your reference to Tom Hanson as a
>simpering douche bag.  I have a lot of friends who are simpering douche 
>bags
>and I know that all of them would be insulted to be called a Tom Hanson.
>Who in their right mind would want to be a bitter angry REMF lifer double
>dipper who eats shit and bothers people?"
>
>In these waning days before Christmas it is certainly pleasing to see the
>holiday spirit so warmly expressed.  By way of a heart-felt greeting
>concerning yours truly, Mr. Nesbit reveals to V2020 subscribers that he has
>learned a new acronym, REMF (short for Rear Echelon M****r F****r), and a
>new term commonly used by our troops, lifer (a derogatory term referencing 
>a
>career soldier).
>
>To some line unit fire teams I was a REMF during the period November 1969
>thru June 1970 having been assigned such a lush position as an operations
>clerk in the S-3 shop of 1st Battalion, 9th Infantry in Phu Bai, RVN.  You
>certainly have me there, Mr. Nisbet.
>
>And again, you are right.  I was a lifer, having served 20 years in the
>Army.  Doesn't it just warm your heart, Moscow, being exposed to such
>patriotic troop support as that reflected by Mr. Nesbit.  I am just as
>certain that Mr. Nesbit more than likely has a "Support Our Troops" magnet
>on his car.  That just goes to show his boundless patriotism.  I mean . . .
>Here is Mr. Nesbit willing to permanently commit a portion of his worth in
>support of our troops, while selfishly contracted my services to the
>military where I was so generously compensated in excess of $300,000 for
>just a small portion of my time (just over 20 years).
>
>Lo and behold, though.  I am certain that Mr. Nesbit is mistaken when he
>calls me a "double dipper".  It is true that I am receiving retirement pay
>from the Army.  It is also true that I am receiving disability compensation
>from the VA.  However, my Army retirement pay is offset by an amount equal
>to my disability compensation.  But, maybe Mr. Nesbit is on to something.
>Maybe we should restrict military retirement benefits and service-connected
>disability compensation to simply allowing those double-dipping lifers to
>marching in the annual Veterans' Day Parade.  That'll show 'em, huh Mr.
>Nesbit?
>
>As far as eating s**t is concerned, you'll have to file that complaint with
>Winco.  A vast majority of my meals originate from their shelves.  I assume
>that their products have been inspect.  But, then again, maybe you are on 
>to
>something.
>
>Next time I sit with a group of veterans, say . . . like the VFW, I will be
>certain to pass on your comments.
>
>Take care, Moscow.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>PS - One last thing for Mr. Nesbit . . . Merry Christmas.
>
>
>  "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
>
>
>

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