[Vision2020] Business parking

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Thu Dec 15 07:14:48 PST 2005


And your point would be?

GC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Hansen 
  To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Joan Opyr' 
  Cc: 'Vision2020 Moscow' ; 'Linda Pall' ; 'Nancy Chaney' ; 'Lois Blackburn' ; 'John Dickinson' 
  Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:51 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Business parking


  Mr. Crabtree -

   

  You claim that parking limitations should not be considered in regards to NSA.

   

  Yet, it was a major topic of discussion at the December 5, 2005 City Council Public Hearing on Schools in Non-Residential Zones, as recorded and posted at:

   

  http://www.tomandrodna.com/Zoning/

   

  Apparently, judging by your postings, you feel that retaining NSA at its current location is extremely important to you.  Yet, the name G. Crabtree has not appeared until just recently.  Hmmm.

   

  Take care, Moscow.

   

  Tom Hansen

  Moscow, Idaho

  "law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice, and when they fail in this purpose, they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress."

  - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 


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  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of g. crabtree
  Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:28 AM
  To: Joan Opyr
  Cc: Vision2020 Moscow; Linda Pall; Nancy Chaney; Lois Blackburn; John Dickinson
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Business parking

   

  Madam, I am pleased to see that my two cents has not only got me the pleasure of this rollicking discourse, but spell check too. My cup runneth over!

   

  The staff and students of N.S.A. pay taxes in all the various and sundry ways you and I do, just not property tax on part of the building. Are you suggesting that all tax exempt organizations be banned for parking on city property?

   

  I don't really understand why you keep bringing this discussion around to parking. You know and I know and everyone reading this knows that your beef isn't about having to walk half a block for your mid-morning frapachino. To pretend other wise is pretty disingenuous.

   

  G.Crabtree

   

  P.S. Should you ever find yourself locked out of your under- garments feel free to give my competitors a call. In fact I insist.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Joan Opyr 

    To: g. crabtree 

    Cc: Vision2020 Moscow ; Linda Pall ; Nancy Chaney ; Lois Blackburn ; John Dickinson 

    Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:59 PM

    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Business parking

     


    On 14 Dec 2005, at 22:06, g. crabtree wrote:

    Ms Opyr, It is amazing how consisantly you almost get it right. Folks in apts. downtown park for days on end in the jackson st. lot and still spare spaces. N.S.A. students come & go as well as shop downtown. The only time parking seems to be difficult is at times N.S.A. is not in session--farmers market & after 5:00 etc.
     
    Error number two would be that I am not the owner of the Lock Shop. I am but the lowly cook & bottle washer, But thanks for the promotion(aww and you pretend that ya don't like me)
     
    Error number three. Faulty comparisons. "Third Street Mall" parking lot is private property. Jackson st. is public. Co-Op customers parked in front of my place of employment all the time, as was their right. There are no signs advising customers of the shopping center not too. The Co-Op was, all in all, a good neighbor and while parking was sometimes tight, we did O.K. I expect it will be the same with our new tennants.


    Sirrah,

    As long as we're counting errors, tenants is spelled tenants, not tennants. The latter is a kind of beer, and not a very good beer at that. I'm also wondering why a lock shop would require a cook and bottle washer. Perhaps a key polisher would be more apt? 

    Here's the poop, Scoop -- the Moscow Hotel pays property taxes. Lots of property taxes. So, too, do the many retail businesses located in the CBD. Until very recently, NSA was tax-exempt. If they win their appeal before the IBTA, they will be tax-exempt once more. They have in the past and may in the future pay absolutely nothing in the way of support for the Jackson Street public parking lot. This ticks me off. This gets my goat. This is unacceptable to me. If NSA were selling something other than recycled pap from old Thomas L. Dixon novels, perhaps they might be reclassified as a business rather than a college. But they're not, and so they are in violation of city ordinance. Again I ask, why should NSA expect special treatment? Why should the City of Moscow rewrite zoning code to fit the needs of the one and only illegal occupant of the CBD at the expense of all of the legal occupants?

    Either you can't answer that, Gee Crabtree, or you won't. Unlike Tom, I don't expect an answer; that's because I don't think you have one.

    Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
    www.joanopyr.com

    PS: I'm not pretending to dislike you. I do dislike you. I wouldn't use the Lock Shop if I were shut out of my own underwear. What I'd do is call Christ Church and ask them to loan me their safecracker. (Re: Vera White's column of December 9th.) Just out of curiosity, I wonder why Doug thought there might be a safecracker in his congregation? I don't doubt that there are plenty of crackers in the Kirk, but are any of them safe? 


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