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Ron et. al.

I understand your perspective on appropriate Vision2020 list topics, though 
there are some very well informed and intelligent list members who do not agree 
that the theological or philosophical discussions are not important or 
related to local community concerns.

What I primarily disagree with in your statement is that the unmoderated 
Vision2020 list has "succumbed" to "trolls, fanatics, obsessives and nuts."  I 
also don't agree with oversimplified negative stereotyping of other human beings, 
though it is easy to "succumb" to the temptation to label some people in this 
manner.

Consider this definition:

suc·cumb    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (s-km)
intr.v. suc·cumbed, suc·cumb·ing, suc·cumbs 
To submit to an overpowering force or yield to an overwhelming desire; give 
up or give in. See Synonyms at yield. 
To die. 

Has Vision2020 submitted to an overpowering force derived from the people you 
reference with your derogatory stereotypes that has resulted in the list 
giving up or giving in?  No. Has Vision2020 died?  No. 

Can it accurately be claimed that some people who may match your stereotypes 
have harassed the list?  Yes.

Ted Moffett
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