[Vision2020] Maybe it's the Percoset talking but . . .
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 2 21:08:45 PST 2005
Despite my complaints about the administration at Gritman, one cannot file malpractice suits against the staff at Gritman for not being able to fix all that is wrong with Joan Opyr. Modern medicine and a well trained medical team can only do so much.
Her testimony is evidence of how well the medical team at Gritman can perform lobotomies as her attacks to arguments I NEVER made were addressed in her latest post and her obvious ignorance about NAs, CNAs, LPNs, RNs, and BSNs have illustrated..
Joan erroneously writes:
"WSU, LCSC, and Walla Walla are not churning out LPNs. It's BSN or nothing these days.
BULL. Lewis and Clark, Boise State University, Walla Walla Nursing School in Clarkston, Walla Walla in Walla Walla, Apollo College in Boise, all have LPN programs as well as RN programs. Most community colleges do not even offer BSNs, only RNs (Associates in Nursing). Most states and most programs that offer RN degrees offer a CPN, (certified Practical) LPN or LVN (Vocational) after just 1 ½ years of study, LCSC, Walla Walla, and BSU are examples. WSU only offers a RN-to-BSN program, which is the last two years of a BSN program. Apollo College just started offering a LPN program. Check yourself:
http://nursing.boisestate.edu/Resources/Advanced%20Placement%20LPN%20Application%20F05.pdf
http://www.lcsc.edu/nurdiv/pn/default.htm
http://www.wwcc.edu/programs/proftech/NURS/degree_sequence.cfm?cc=200&dc=NURS&EPC=326
More showing of Opyr ignorance:
Even if Gritman wanted to use LPNs, where would they find them?
Well see, the Idaho Board of Nursing actually keeps tract of who has a nursing degree, a RN, LPN, or BSN, or who is even a CNA. They do not let anyone just stab you in the ass with a needle, even in Idaho. So if want to find a LPN in Idaho you write the Idaho State Board of Nursing (http://www2.state.id.us/ibn/index.htm) and get a list that tells you the name, address, and current place of occupation for anyone in the nursing field. If you live in a modern state like Oregon, you can do an online search from your house, like here:
http://www.osbn.state.or.us/search/searchResults-submit.do
My arguments are not against nurses, as Opyr tries to claim, they are for them. Gritmans administration purposely creates positions that are under 24 hours a week (check your self here: http://www.gritman.org/careers/careers.asp) because that is the point at which nurses obtain medical and retirement benefits. Joan and BJ Swanson defend this behavior, and I think that is abhorrent.
BJ Swanson, Chair of the Board Directors for Gritman, said that their 400 employees only amount to 282 full time jobs at an average pay rate of $20.77 per hour (http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-November/022424.html). The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports the average salary for a nurse is about $50,000.
(http://allnurses.com/forums/f8/registered-nurses-bureau-labor-statistics-102710.html or
http://www3.ccps.virginia.edu/career_prospects/briefs/P-S/RNs.shtml#earnings)
Simple 8th grade algebra, (I know Joan will not understand this since she could even do division for student per sq foot with the proposed high school, but that is OK because I will give her the answer anyway) will tell you that means the average worker at Gritman gets only 24.5 hours of work a week. That is an annual salary of $25,443. That is less than the pitiful salaries they were complaining a starting teacher gets at MSD, minus the summers off. Funny how Joan complains about the teachers being underpaid but is fine with nurses making the same wages or less.
The wages for nurses at only 20 hours a week at Gritman are not enough to pay the bills and live in Moscow. Opyr and BJ want to deny this reality and joke about it, but the truth is painfully obvious that nurses at Gritman are grossly unpaid. Ask any nurse you know in Moscow if they believe that nurses are being paid a fair salary..
-DJA
Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net> wrote: Dear Visionaries,
I'm fresh out of Gritman Hospital, where I had my gallbladder removed
the old-fashioned way, i.e., not laparascopically. I've got an
eight-inch incision and two endoscopic test holes, which have been
closed collectively by 23 shiny surgical staples and one ugly suture.
Ouch. But I survived, and I am here to attest that despite Donovan's
ignorant, dire, haberdashical ranting, Gritman is well-stocked with
RNs, and these RNs are, in fact, paid significantly more than the
average Wal-Mart greeter. The ones I chatted with laughed at the
suggestion that there might be some comparison. There is an acute
nursing shortage in the United States. California is paying nurses
$10,000 bonuses (in addition to their regular pay) to sign up for
three-month visiting stints at public hospitals. Gritman is working
hard to attract and retain qualified RNs, and it's doing a good job.
As for Donovan's charge that Gritman is using and abusing LPNs,
poppycock. During my six-day stint on the Med-Surg ward, I was cared
for by RNs -- medication, evaluation, and consultation -- and CNAs, who
took vitals, helped with the cleaning up, and measured the I & O,
meaning they recorded and emptied the little urine "hat" on my toilet.
Even if Gritman wanted to use LPNs, where would they find them? WSU,
LCSC, and Walla Walla are not churning out LPNs. It's BSN or nothing
these days. (I think there's still an LPN program up in Canada, but
Canada also has socialized medicine. And caribou. And people who
speak French.)
I can also testify that the doctors who practice at Gritman are most
definitely NOT paid by the hospital. Oh, no. The doctors bill the
patient separately -- separately, independently, and eye-poppingly.
Technically, I'm taking Percoset for incision pain; really, I'm taking
it for wallet pain. (Note to Michael Metzler: you need to ask yourself
why you're paying Doug Wilson thousands of dollars to teach you how to
make the same argument for the "nobility" of the Old South that David
O. Selznick made during the first reel of "Gone With The Wind." What a
scam! Listen, take your money and enroll in the WAMI Program. You'll
learn how to carve people into small, painful pieces and have them pay
you for the privilege. It's true that you can also do that through
religion, but at the moment, you're on the short end of that particular
stick. Doug has cornered the local market. You can't practice in
Moscow; you'll need to move somewhere like Monroe, Louisiana or Cary,
North Carolina, or . . . no, wait. Damn. You're screwed.)
All of which brings me to a point, of sorts. I've been out of
commission for more than a week. I have, like Rip Van Winkle, been
asleep. But now I'm awake, and what do I find? Here we all are, once
again, talking about good and evil, slavery, zoning, retail, big boxes
and Donovan Arnold. Haven't we been here before? I think so, and I
don't recall its being a destination I'd wanted or planned to visit
again, not like the Corn Palace or Wall Drug. Yeah! I want to go
somewhere different, somewhere fun, so let me throw out a few ideas and
see what happens:
1) The statement "I'd rather be a slave on a good plantation than an
aborted fetus" is not only stupid, it's meaningless. If you were an
aborted fetus, how would you know? You're not George Bailey, Michael
Metzler, and this is not "It's a Wonderful Life." What if your parents
had never met? What if Mr. Metzler's sperm had not met Mrs. Metzler's
egg? What if your parents had decided to make whipping cream instead
of whoopee? Once upon a time, millions of little
Somebody-Else-Other-Than-Michael Metzlers went swimming up your
mother's fallopian tube. None of them were you. Do they all have
regrets? Does each and every sperm-that-wasn't wish that it, too, had
been Mammy or Pork on Miss Scarlet's plantation? Whether or not you
believe abortion is murder, this argument is dipshitacious. If I were
you, I'd nip it in the bud.
2) Let's jump back to Genesis for a moment and Michael's bizarre
assertion that the Hebrew creation story is recreated via heterosexual
sex. No, it isn't. The great innovation of Hebrew monotheism is that
God brings the world into being just by speaking. That's it. The
word. The act of utterance. Sex is taken firmly out of the realm of
the divine and placed just as firmly into the realm of the human. If
you're thinking otherwise, you're thinking pagan. There's nothing
wrong with that, as my pagan friends will attest, but let's be clear.
God is beyond sex. That's how devout Jews, Christians, and Muslims can
still be devout and yet believe that homosexuality is not a sin, or at
least not an "original" one.
3) Before we engage in endless debate about the nature of good and
evil, let's consider the possibility that neither exists. (If we're
going to play philosophy, then let's play for keeps.) Plato viewed
"evil" as a limitation of creation -- as that gap between the ideal and
the actual. When good and evil leapt into the realm of Hebrew and
later Christian theology, "evil" was offered as an all-purpose answer
to the question, "Why do the righteous suffer?" What did Job do to
tick off God? Absolutely nothing. He got it in the neck for no reason
at all; well, except for the irrational reason of "evil." For early
and medieval Christians, evil was human; it was embodied in human sin.
Consequently, it was good and righteous to stamp out human sin, even if
you had to kill the sinner in order to save him.
The Inquisition, the pogroms, the Salem witch trials, and several
million dead sinners later, we've come to the idea that evil might be a
bit bigger than the individual. Evil is genocide, or child abuse, or
serial killing. There are evil people, but they are evil because they
act against a grand list of "do nots." John Wayne Gacy is evil; Hitler
is evil; Pol Pot is evil. I don't disagree with this assessment, but
then I'm presupposing that evil is the direct consequence of bad
intent, and there's a problem with this kind of thinking. Evil results
from both action, i.e., Hitler's decision to kill six million Jews, and
inaction, i.e., Britain's, the United States', and France's complicity.
According to some textbooks, as late as 1942, Germany was still
willing to issue exit visas to Jews, but few countries were willing to
accept Jewish refugees. So, were Roosevelt and Churchill evil? They
were certainly anti-Semitic, and their anti-Semitism certainly helped
drive up the death toll of the holocaust. Objectively, in the face of
all the good they did, on this count -- on the count of their inaction
-- I have to condemn them.
Where does that leave us? Genocide is evil. So who's to blame for the
genocide in Rwanda? It had many causes and precursors: colonialism,
religious difference, religious indifference, and the United Nations'
and Clinton Administration's inaction. (For what it's worth to the
800,000 dead, Clinton has publicly apologized for this.)
I'm offering up a Vision 2020 challenge: before we argue about the
nature of good and evil, let's first prove that good and evil exist.
Let's prove it logically and empirically WITHOUT resorting to mere
lists of crimes and criminals. We all know that people do terrible
things; we all know that people hurt, maim, and kill one another; but
how many of us would be willing to state categorically and universally
that hurting, maiming, and killing are always and everywhere wrong?
God said, "Thou shalt not kill," and Jesus said, "Turn the other
cheek," but St. Augustine turned both God and Jesus on their heads by
arguing that there was such a thing as a Christian "just war." (Pat
Kraut makes virtually the same argument on this list day after day to
justify the United States' actions in Iraq.) So, tell me, what's
always and everywhere good? And what's always and everywhere evil?
And why?
My own answers, of course, are "It depends" and "Because." But I'm
hoping that others can and will do better.
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com
PS: Phil makes a very good point in asking why just fight Wal-Mart?
Why not fight instead to attract better business to the area? But Mark
Solomon makes an equally good point with his alligator analogy. How
can we fight for better jobs if we turn a blind eye to the "evils" of
Wal-Mart? Or, for that matter, Sodexho? On what grounds do we demand
higher wages and benefits? Is Moscow, Idaho subjectively better than
Bentonville, Arkansas? I'd say yes, but you'll have to wait for my
next Percoset to find out why . . ._____________________________________________________
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