[Vision2020] Bad news reporting

Fri Aug 26 00:15:47 PDT 2005

Ms. Kraut,

Your wrote:

"Someone else made the decision to put up the sign. I
was for the guys on the ship had nothing to do with
Bush." 

Pat, it was not four crewmen that went to Kinko's and
ordered a giant sign that said "Mission Accomplished"
and just hung it behind Bush perfectly so it would
show behind his shoulder as he gave a speech. It was
in fact planned, as every little detail is during
presidential media events. I am sure Bush did not
decide on the color, but he hired the team that did,
and he is responsible for their decisions. Bush
certainly knew that sign was going to be there and
where he was to go and what to do before "the Eagle
had landed".

Bush never takes responsibility for anything that he
does or anything that goes wrong even when it was
almost 100% in his control, like the military. That
makes him a bad leader.

I do not blame the President for some things. But
generally poor leadership hurts a country and the
confidence of the country.  

I am with you 100% in supporting our troops and
bringing them home.

Donovan J Arnold 

--- Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:

> For you to still be quoting this story as proof of
> Bush and his problems
> only shows how much you do not learn watching CNN.
> Someone else made the
> decision to put up the sign. I was for the guys on
> the ship had nothing to
> do with Bush. If we truly want to 'support our
> troops' than we can be happy
> that they trained, worked hard and 'accomplished
> their mission. It is
> actually very simple Donovan and not worthy of
> continually blaming Bush for
> things others do. The person who did make the sign
> has already said it was
> bad timing on his part and he wishes he hadn't done
> it...BUT, it had nothing
> to do with Bush. Read other things once in awhile
> and you won't embarrass
> yourself going back to big media stories that have
> been already proven
> wrong.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donovan Arnold"
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bad news reporting
> 
> 
> "No, I do not understand someone so dishonoring
> their
> child by using it for their personal agenda."--Ms.
> Kraut
> 
> Pat, you mean like Bush did with the entire military
> when he flew in on a US carrier with a big sign
> behind
> him that said, "Mission Accomplished"?
> 
> It would seem to me that Bush used the death of more
> sons for a personal agenda than this woman has.
> 
> Bush has piled his crap so high and for so long it
> is
> now toppling over and crushing him.
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> --- Pat Kraut <pkpkrautomoscowom> wrote:
> 
> > No, I do not understand someone so dishonoring
> their
> > child by using it for their personal agenda. These
> > question have been answered by many and Bush is
> > sticking his ground against all the stupidity in
> the
> > so called 'Peace' movement. Her son
> volunteered...no
> > one made him go! She does not want to talk to
> > Bush...she wants to rave at him with the same
> agenda
> > that Move On.org has. It apparently is fine with
> her
> > if people are being killed by a monster and his
> sons
> > with no hope of justice. To me that is not any
> type
> > of Peace.
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Tom Hansen
> >   To: 'SuSunilaRamalingam; vision2020 at momoscowom
> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:18 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Bad news reporting
> >
> >
> >   Ms. Kraut -
> >
> >
> >
> >   What is currently transpiring outside Bush's
> ranch
> > in Crawford, Texas is alalotigger than Cindy
> > ShSheehan It has to do with unanswered questions.
> > The chest-thumping "Bring 'em on," has been
> reduced
> > to Bush's whimpering sound bite "Stay the course,"
> > neither of which answer the question "Why?"
> >
> >
> >
> >   The longer George Bush ignores this question,
> the
> > tougher it will become to send sons and daughters
> > into harms way.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Certainly you can understand that.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Tom Hansen
> >
> >   "If not us, who?
> >   If not now, when?"
> >
> >   - Unknown
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >   From: vision2020-bounces at momoscowom
> > [mamailtoision2020-bounces at momoscowom] On Behalf
> Of
> > SuSunilaRamalingam>   Sent: Wednesday, August 24,
> 2005 12:04 PM
> >   To: vision2020 at momoscowom
> >   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Bad news reporting
> >
> >
> >
> >   Just like when they acted as if Bush, Cheney,
> > RuRumsfeldPowell, and Rice among others were
> telling
> > us the truth about the reasons and progress of the
> > war.
> >
> >   susunil>
> >
> >
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> >
> >     From:  "Pat Kraut" <pkpkrautomoscowom>
> >     To:  "vision2020" <vision2020 at momoscowom>
> >     Subject:  [Vision2020] Bad news reporting
> >     Date:  Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:06:40 -0700
> >     >The news programs are all calling Cindy
> ShSheehan> a 'Gold Star' mother as
> >     >though the Gold Star mothers endorsed her
> > activities.
> >
> >hthttp/wwwwwogoldstarmomsom/agagsmome/index.hthtm>
>  >
> >     >They don't! The media is misleading one more
> > time.
> >     >PK
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >I can't be a Republican...I have always been
> > gainfully employed!
> >     >
> >
> >
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