[Vision2020] Yeah Right Mr. Hansen, Public prayer on public money

[Donovan Arnold]

Mr. Hansen,

Weddings and Funerals are also religious events and
usually have prayer. Are you suggesting that we ban
all public weddings and funerals too?

I doubt very much you support the banning of public
prayer when it is after a 21 salute of a fallen
soldier.

Should public funerals and prayer for our fallen
soldiers be banned Mr. Hansen because one of the
troops firing the gun is not of the same faith as the
solider? Should we just through public figures and
dead soldiers in a pine box as to not offend someone's
little ears from hearing words like Christ, Buddha,
Allah, God and the like?
 

Donovan J Arnold



--- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Arnol -
> Prayer, in and of itself, may not be a religion. 
> But, let's see what the
> Miriam-Webster dictionary has to say.
> 
> I invite your attention to definition #3 below.
> 
> Main Entry: prayer    
> Pronunciation: pra(a)]()r, pre], ]
> Function: noun
> Inflected Form(s): -s
> Usage: often attributive
> Etymology: Middle English preyere, prayere, from Old
> French preiere, from
> Medieval Latin precaria written petition,
> supplication, prayer, from Latin,
> feminine of precarius obtained by entreaty or
> prayer, from Latin prec-, prex
> request, entreaty, prayer + -arius -ary -- more at
> PRAY
> 
> 1 a : a solemn and humble approach to Divinity in
> word or thought usually
> involving beseeching, petition, confession, praise,
> or thanksgiving <devoted
> a moment to silent prayer before beginning his task>
> b : an earnest request
> to someone for something: as (1) : the part of a
> petition or memorial (as to
> a legislature) that specifies the thing desired (2)
> : the part of a bill in
> equity or other pleading that specifies the relief
> sought (3) : a request
> (as by a charge to a jury) for action by the court
> (4) : a formal motion in
> the British Parliament to invalidate a ministerial
> order or regulation c
> prayers plural : earnest good wishes <whatever you
> decide you have my
> prayers>
> 
> 2: the act or practice of praying: the addressing of
> words or thought to
> Divinity in petition, confession, praise, or
> thanksgiving <public prayer was
> then an accepted custom> <friends and neighbors
> gathered in prayer for the
> dead>
> 
> 3: a religious service consisting chiefly of prayers
> -- often used in plural
> <had regular family prayers >
> 
> 4: a set form of words used in praying: a formula of
> supplication,
> confession, praise, or thanksgiving addressed to God
> or an object of worship
> <a book of prayers for different occasions>
> 
> 5: something prayed for : a subject of prayer <God
> granted their prayer>
> 
> 6: a slight or minimal chance (as to succeed or
> survive) <a second-rate
> maritime power without a prayer of meeting military
> shipping needs -- New
> York Times> <hadn't a prayer to recover>
> 
> Take care, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "I think one of the best ways to support education
> is to make successful
> private schools like Logos prosper through tax
> exemption."
> 
> - Donovan Arnold (July 11, 2005)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:10 PM
> To: Sunil Ramalingam; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Public prayer on public
> money
> 
> Sunil,
> 
> 
> You wrote, "I think state-sponsored prayer IS state
> religion."
>  
> You are wrong. Prayer is not A religion. All or most
> religions PRAY or have some type or concept of
> PRAYER.
> So the state is not forcing a religion on anyone by
> allowing a moment for prayer. Nor is it promoting
> one
> religion over another. If do not want to pray, you
> do
> not have too, but do not prevent others. I would
> also
> like to point out that both the State and Federal
> governments use public prayer before their meeting. 
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> 
>
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