[Vision2020] Posted for Keely Mix

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Apr 26 13:55:42 PDT 2005


Take a breath, Phil.

Why don't we leave it at this?  People who think I'm evil personified should 
go ahead and vote no.

People who don't, should examine the plan and vote on its merits.  I bet 
most will vote "yes" solely on the merits of the plan and not because 
they're relieved I'm not evil personified.

People who accuse me of being on the take and promise to make sure my career 
goes down in flames are free to continue, and people who are appalled by 
their behavior should know that I'm not at all concerned.

Fair enough?

keely


From: cjs <cjs at turbonet.com>
To: DonaldH675 at aol.com
CC: VISION2020 at MOSCOW.COM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Posted for Keely Mix
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:13:00 -0700

In response:


 > 2.  There is no Plan B.   Over the course of two years, innumerable 
meetings
 > (every one of them  public), from 39 different scenarios to eight plans 
to
 > three tracks to one  bond issue, this is the plan that makes sense.  
There
 > isn't a default  position, not because we on the FPC are stubborn, but
 > because the  interdependence of each project requires that they be taken 
as a
 > whole.  This is that whole; it can't be chopped up.

VOTERS REMEMBER THIS. IT IS ALL OR NOTHING. IF THIS LEVY DOES NOT PASS, IT 
WILL COME BACK. CHOPPED UP.


 > 6.  Despite reassurance from the architect, site engineers  and city that 
a
 > school built on the Trail property won't flood, opponents  continue to
 > suggest otherwise.  I'm not sure what a degree in  veterinary medicine
 > consists of, but I prefer to get my floodplain  information from those 
whose
 > professional degrees require intensive training  in site development

KEELY, HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE? STOP TRYING TO SELL US THIS. THE 
ARCHITECT TOLD ALL OF US THE SCHOOL WILL BE BUILT UP 4 FEET ABOVE THE FLOOD 
PLAIN. I EMPHASIZE THE WORD FLOOD PLAIN, KEELY. OUT OF HIS VERY OWN MOUTH. 
REMEMBER? HE ALSO TOLD ALL OF US, "THE WETLANDS COULD BE MADE INTO A VERY 
NICE APPEALING AREA." MY COUNTY MAP OF THE PROPOSED TRAIL SITE SHOWS A FLOOD 
PLAIN. MORE THAN 1/3 OF THE TOTAL 40 ACRES ARE INDEED IN A FLOOD PLAIN. WHAT 
MAP ARE YOU LOOKING AT? NO ONE SAID, "THE HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING WILL FLOOD." 
AGAIN, REFER TO THE ARCHITECTS WORDS OF, "IT WILL BE BUILT ABOVE THE FLOOD 
PLAIN. FOUR FEET." THIS IS AT A GREAT DEAL OF COST, KEELY. OUR QUESTION IS 
IF THE HIGH SCHOOL IS BUILT ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN, WHERE IS THE WATER GOING 
TO DRAIN TO? FOOTBALL FIELD? PARKING LOT? SORRY FOLKS NEVER GOT THOSE 
ANSWERS. BUT WE TRIED. GOS KNOWS WE TRIED.


 > 8.  The $29 million plan had significant trimming before it  was 
presented.
 > The architects are reducing their fees, the number of  parking spaces has
 > been cut down, the athletic facilities and auditoriums  that many would
 > expect in a new HS have been postponed, the HVAC and  engineering systems
 > have been estimated based on solid, reliable, but not  extravagant 
equipment,
 > and the site can be purchased at a buy-10-get-40  price -- that's 10 
acres AT
 > MARKET VALUE with the cost rebated back to the  district for the 
necessary
 > fencing.  By any measure, this is a lean,  efficient bond, a bargain that
 > scores of districts throughout the state wish  they had the opportunity 
to
 > consider.

SHOW US THE ESTIMATES BASED ON "SOLID, RELIABLE, BUT NOT EXTRAVAGENT...", SO 
WE CAN COMPARE. GOD KNOWS MANY PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE IN THIS FIELD HAVE 
OFFERED TO REVIEW THIS PLAN. GIVE IT TO THEM. DID I HEAR THAT YOU GET TO 
CHOSE THE APPRAISER? THE APPRAISER IS COMING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? 
HMMMMM. I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ALL OF US THE APPRAISER WILL BE A THIRD 
PARTY, UNINTERESTED AND NOT BIASED APPRAISER. ALL OF US KNOW THE DISTRICT 
APPRAISER IS NOT A THIRD PARTY. HEEELLLL0000000. TALK ABOUT MIS INFORMATION, 
KEELY.


REMEMBER ONE OF THE CONTINGENCIES TO GET THE 30 ACRES YOU GOTTA BUY 10 AND 
THERE IS TO BE A SECURITY FENCE? REMEMBER DAVE TRAILS WORDS,  "CHEAP CHAIN 
LINK WOULD BE OK." I TOLD DAVE TRAIL AS WELL AS V2020, THAT CHEAP CHAIN LINK 
IS NOT CHEAP. IT WOULD COST WELL OVER 150,000.00 INCLUDING GATES TO FENCE  
THE ACREAGE. TO SWEETEN THE POT TRAIL ALL OF A SUDDEN SAYS THAT HE WILL 
REBATE THE COST OF THE FENCE? I HAVE JUST SAVED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT A HUGE 
CHUNK OF CHANGE. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THIS LEVY PASSED AND THE TRAILS SAID, 
"WHERE IS MY SECURITY FENCE?" WHERE ON EARTH WOULD WE GET THIS MONEY? 
ANOTHER LEVY? BUT WE KNOW THAT IS COMING ANYWAY. I AM SURE GLAD I BROUGHT 
THE CHEAP CHAIN LINK FENCE TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. CAUSE IT IS NOT CHEAP. 
REMEMBER FOLKS, THE SECURITY FENCE IS NO WHERE ON ANY BID JUST IN THE TRAILS 
LETTER TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT "GIFT."  NOW YOU ALL SEE WHY DOCUMENTATION IS 
SO IMPORTANT. VERBAL COMMUNICATION IN REGARDS TO 29 MILLION DOLLARS DOES NOT 
MAKE IT IN MY BOO!
  K. THAT
IS IF IT IS VERBAL AND NOT IN HIDDEN MATERIAL. LIKE ON THE BROKEN LINKS ON 
THE DISTRICTS WEBSITE.


 > 10.  Finally, the manner in which the opposition has argued has  been, 
for
 > the most part, despicable.  I need not elaborate further, and  I defy 
anyone
 > to suggest that the moral high ground in this debate has been  claimed by 
the
 > anti-bond forces.  Good people can disagree on this --  I've been clear 
on
 > that -- but character is revealed by how they do  so.  I'm proud of my
 > involvement in this forum, this campaign, this  process, and this debate. 
  If
 > an argument is articulated PRIMARILY  through name-calling, invective, 
lies,
 > hysteria, disinformation, willful  ignorance and Hitlerian comparisons 
and
 > accusations of anti-religious  bigotry, then perhaps there is a paucity 
of
 > legitimate argument to be  had.  To those of you voting against the bond 
and
 > doing so respectfully  and in an informed manner, publicly or privately, 
you
 > have my sincere  respect, and I'm sorry you've been co-opted by those 
less
 > able to behave in  a civically responsible manner.

KEELY, I AM BLUE IN THE FACE AND EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED IN GETTING THE DOG AND 
PONY SHOW FROM YOU. YOU DO NOT ANSWER STRAIGHT FORWARD QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO 
YOU. WHY? I HAVE NEVER EVER OFFERED ANY DIS INFORMATION ON THIS LIST. I AM 
NOT A LIAR. IF I AM, PROVE IT! I HAVE RESEARCHED EVERYTHING BEFORE IT GOES 
ON THIS LIST. UNLIKE YOU. OR AT LEAST TRIED TO RESEARCH. IT IS HARD TO TALK 
TO A BRICK WALL.

WILLFULL IGNORANCE? YES YOU ARE.  YOU ARE A CLASSIC EXAMPLE.

WHO SAID HITLER?  SPEAK OF CHARACTER, KEELY.

ANTI-RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY? WHERE? WHEN? NOT OUT OF MY MOUTH. KEELY YOU CANNOT 
DEFAME ME WITH YOUR ACCUSATIONS. THESE ARE YOUR WORDS, YOUR THOUGHTS.

EVERYONE, I MEAN EVERYONE, DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE VOTING. OR, TRY TO. VOTE 
NO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS. I VOTED NO.

PHIL RODERICK


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