[Vision2020] Posted for Keely Mix
cjs
cjs at turbonet.com
Tue Apr 26 12:13:00 PDT 2005
In response:
> 2. There is no Plan B. Over the course of two years, innumerable meetings
> (every one of them public), from 39 different scenarios to eight plans to
> three tracks to one bond issue, this is the plan that makes sense. There
> isn't a default position, not because we on the FPC are stubborn, but
> because the interdependence of each project requires that they be taken as a
> whole. This is that whole; it can't be chopped up.
VOTERS REMEMBER THIS. IT IS ALL OR NOTHING. IF THIS LEVY DOES NOT PASS, IT WILL COME BACK. CHOPPED UP.
> 6. Despite reassurance from the architect, site engineers and city that a
> school built on the Trail property won't flood, opponents continue to
> suggest otherwise. I'm not sure what a degree in veterinary medicine
> consists of, but I prefer to get my floodplain information from those whose
> professional degrees require intensive training in site development
KEELY, HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE? STOP TRYING TO SELL US THIS. THE ARCHITECT TOLD ALL OF US THE SCHOOL WILL BE BUILT UP 4 FEET ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN. I EMPHASIZE THE WORD FLOOD PLAIN, KEELY. OUT OF HIS VERY OWN MOUTH. REMEMBER? HE ALSO TOLD ALL OF US, "THE WETLANDS COULD BE MADE INTO A VERY NICE APPEALING AREA." MY COUNTY MAP OF THE PROPOSED TRAIL SITE SHOWS A FLOOD PLAIN. MORE THAN 1/3 OF THE TOTAL 40 ACRES ARE INDEED IN A FLOOD PLAIN. WHAT MAP ARE YOU LOOKING AT? NO ONE SAID, "THE HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING WILL FLOOD." AGAIN, REFER TO THE ARCHITECTS WORDS OF, "IT WILL BE BUILT ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN. FOUR FEET." THIS IS AT A GREAT DEAL OF COST, KEELY. OUR QUESTION IS IF THE HIGH SCHOOL IS BUILT ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN, WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO DRAIN TO? FOOTBALL FIELD? PARKING LOT? SORRY FOLKS NEVER GOT THOSE ANSWERS. BUT WE TRIED. GOS KNOWS WE TRIED.
> 8. The $29 million plan had significant trimming before it was presented.
> The architects are reducing their fees, the number of parking spaces has
> been cut down, the athletic facilities and auditoriums that many would
> expect in a new HS have been postponed, the HVAC and engineering systems
> have been estimated based on solid, reliable, but not extravagant equipment,
> and the site can be purchased at a buy-10-get-40 price -- that's 10 acres AT
> MARKET VALUE with the cost rebated back to the district for the necessary
> fencing. By any measure, this is a lean, efficient bond, a bargain that
> scores of districts throughout the state wish they had the opportunity to
> consider.
SHOW US THE ESTIMATES BASED ON "SOLID, RELIABLE, BUT NOT EXTRAVAGENT...", SO WE CAN COMPARE. GOD KNOWS MANY PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE IN THIS FIELD HAVE OFFERED TO REVIEW THIS PLAN. GIVE IT TO THEM. DID I HEAR THAT YOU GET TO CHOSE THE APPRAISER? THE APPRAISER IS COMING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? HMMMMM. I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ALL OF US THE APPRAISER WILL BE A THIRD PARTY, UNINTERESTED AND NOT BIASED APPRAISER. ALL OF US KNOW THE DISTRICT APPRAISER IS NOT A THIRD PARTY. HEEELLLL0000000. TALK ABOUT MIS INFORMATION, KEELY.
REMEMBER ONE OF THE CONTINGENCIES TO GET THE 30 ACRES YOU GOTTA BUY 10 AND THERE IS TO BE A SECURITY FENCE? REMEMBER DAVE TRAILS WORDS, "CHEAP CHAIN LINK WOULD BE OK." I TOLD DAVE TRAIL AS WELL AS V2020, THAT CHEAP CHAIN LINK IS NOT CHEAP. IT WOULD COST WELL OVER 150,000.00 INCLUDING GATES TO FENCE THE ACREAGE. TO SWEETEN THE POT TRAIL ALL OF A SUDDEN SAYS THAT HE WILL REBATE THE COST OF THE FENCE? I HAVE JUST SAVED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT A HUGE CHUNK OF CHANGE. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THIS LEVY PASSED AND THE TRAILS SAID, "WHERE IS MY SECURITY FENCE?" WHERE ON EARTH WOULD WE GET THIS MONEY? ANOTHER LEVY? BUT WE KNOW THAT IS COMING ANYWAY. I AM SURE GLAD I BROUGHT THE CHEAP CHAIN LINK FENCE TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. CAUSE IT IS NOT CHEAP. REMEMBER FOLKS, THE SECURITY FENCE IS NO WHERE ON ANY BID JUST IN THE TRAILS LETTER TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT "GIFT." NOW YOU ALL SEE WHY DOCUMENTATION IS SO IMPORTANT. VERBAL COMMUNICATION IN REGARDS TO 29 MILLION DOLLARS DOES NOT MAKE IT IN MY BOO!
K. THAT
IS IF IT IS VERBAL AND NOT IN HIDDEN MATERIAL. LIKE ON THE BROKEN LINKS ON THE DISTRICTS WEBSITE.
> 10. Finally, the manner in which the opposition has argued has been, for
> the most part, despicable. I need not elaborate further, and I defy anyone
> to suggest that the moral high ground in this debate has been claimed by the
> anti-bond forces. Good people can disagree on this -- I've been clear on
> that -- but character is revealed by how they do so. I'm proud of my
> involvement in this forum, this campaign, this process, and this debate. If
> an argument is articulated PRIMARILY through name-calling, invective, lies,
> hysteria, disinformation, willful ignorance and Hitlerian comparisons and
> accusations of anti-religious bigotry, then perhaps there is a paucity of
> legitimate argument to be had. To those of you voting against the bond and
> doing so respectfully and in an informed manner, publicly or privately, you
> have my sincere respect, and I'm sorry you've been co-opted by those less
> able to behave in a civically responsible manner.
KEELY, I AM BLUE IN THE FACE AND EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED IN GETTING THE DOG AND PONY SHOW FROM YOU. YOU DO NOT ANSWER STRAIGHT FORWARD QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO YOU. WHY? I HAVE NEVER EVER OFFERED ANY DIS INFORMATION ON THIS LIST. I AM NOT A LIAR. IF I AM, PROVE IT! I HAVE RESEARCHED EVERYTHING BEFORE IT GOES ON THIS LIST. UNLIKE YOU. OR AT LEAST TRIED TO RESEARCH. IT IS HARD TO TALK TO A BRICK WALL.
WILLFULL IGNORANCE? YES YOU ARE. YOU ARE A CLASSIC EXAMPLE.
WHO SAID HITLER? SPEAK OF CHARACTER, KEELY.
ANTI-RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY? WHERE? WHEN? NOT OUT OF MY MOUTH. KEELY YOU CANNOT DEFAME ME WITH YOUR ACCUSATIONS. THESE ARE YOUR WORDS, YOUR THOUGHTS.
EVERYONE, I MEAN EVERYONE, DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE VOTING. OR, TRY TO. VOTE NO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS. I VOTED NO.
PHIL RODERICK
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