[Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 15 18:54:23 PDT 2005
Thank you, Ms. Keely.
Will we see you at the next meeting, Mr.s Phil and Arnold? It is on April
25 at 7pm.
>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: donovanarnold at hotmail.com, privatejf32 at hotmail.com,
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:45:20 -0700
>
>
>The MSD website's facilities section has 22 links to information. The
>district has put out information (not campaign material) about the process
>and the bond over the course of the FPC's work. My facilities file is five
>inches thick; not one document is secret. The website's facilities section
>has been continually updated. The FPC has produced a number of articles
>and handouts about the process and the bond. I wrote a few of them. You
>may have just received the MSD newsletter, School Connections, with several
>pages of facilities/bond info. Many folks, myself included, have attended
>MSD and/or FPC public forums, open houses, and worksessions about the bond
>and the process leading up to it. All were well advertised. CQE recently
>produced a flyer about the bond, including a "did they consider?" section
>for the FAQ connoisseurs among us. I and Dr. Donicht and many others have
>given numerous radio and newspaper interviews. And, as you all know, I've
>spent a bit of time lately on Vision 2020, trying to answer questions.
>
>The inclination of some to not avail themselves of information regarding
>the bond does not equal a disinclination on the part of the district to
>operate with integrity. On the contrary, if we're trying to stonewall,
>then I'd say we're doing a damned poor job of it.
>
>keely
>
>But we're not. It's been there, it is there, and
>
>
>
>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:57 -0700
>
>Humm, perhaps that is because the MSD did not create a website that had
>FAQ. If you did that, you would not be asked 500 questions.
>
>When your plan is unclear, documents are not available, and you ask for a
>lot of money, "You should been there" does not tow the line for a "yes"
>vote. And even if it is passed, we still want to know the answers, it is
>our money.
>
>When the Graduate Students at UI have a big proposal we create a website
>with questions and background about the issue. Let people look at
>everything and ask questions. We also do not say question are stupid.
>Because when we do that, it makes other people fearful to ask questions.
>Then we never get the questions we should be asked. Rule number one is if
>one person asks a question, ten others are thinking the same thing.
>
>If your are getting 500 questions and they are the same 500 questions, that
>ought to say something about the planning and dispersion of information,
>not the people asking the questions.
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:59:02 -0700
>>
>>Ya know, maybe since questions are being asked and answers ARE being given
>>but not listened to perhaps this needs to end. The questions below have
>>been repeatedly answered - I believe the problem is they are not the
>>answers being sought. It's kinda like a conspiracy theory that keeps
>>coming up regarding such things as Kennedy, or aliens amongst us, etc. No
>>matter how many times the facts are presented, if the person is not
>>willing to see what is there as being there, it isn't. Make sence?
>>Neither does this mess.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>>>To: <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>
>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:06 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear Visionaries:
>>>
>>>.......great investigative reporting by Phil "Gumshoe" Roderick and Jack
>>>Doc Holliday" Wenders about those notorious Palouse gangsters, Keely
>>>"Baby
>>>Face" Mix and the Trail family mafia.
>>>
>>>No need for name calling Joan. We are all bigger than that.
>>>
>>>"There is NO $29mil remodel of the high school. The $29mil is for the
>>>ENTIRE
>>>remodel/buidling project which includes two elementary schools and the
>>>high
>>>school and the new high school If you want a break-down of that, then
>>>you
>>>need say so. BTW, that has been supplied to the newspapers, in
>>>newsletters,
>>>
>>>is available at the District Office and was very available on Saturday in
>>>the form of the individual handouts that the architect had for everyone's
>>>convenience. Did you not get a copy of those? I am sure if you went to
>>>the
>>>
>>>District Office and asked NICELY they would direct you to the material.
>>>I
>>>believe they are/will be available at the individual schools also."
>>>
>>>It is broken down on the new high school how about the old high school
>>>remodel. " That is what we keep asking for. Over and over and over.
>>>Without
>>>getting answers it does look like a cartel and acts like one. Maybe you
>>>could ask and see if they tell you anything different? Ask exactly what I
>>>asked them for.
>>>
>>>1) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST BREAKDOWN FROM THE ARCHITECT OF THE 20,500
>>>000.00 "REMODEL" OF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL."
>>>
>>>2) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE "DIRECTIVE" FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE
>>>ARCHITECT "DIRECTING" HOW THE BID IS TO BE DONE."
>>>
>>>..................Once the bond is approved, is there any particular
>>>reason
>>>we can't begin a fresh argument over where to locate it? NO so if you go
>>>into the grocery store and none of the prices are posted and you pick up
>>>everything you need and throw it in your shopping cart and ya get to the
>>>cash register and ya find out ya only have enough money for half of what
>>>ya
>>>got.
>>>
>>>Yes, this is sad that the elementary schools will lose out on the levy
>>>because of wanting a new high school. Maybe they should just ask for a
>>>levy
>>>on the elementary schools and not the high school? I bet the vote might
>>>be
>>>different. I understand the way the levy is written they can move the
>>>money
>>>anywhere they seem fit. So - we are not guaranteed any money is going to
>>>the
>>>elementary schools, period.
>>>
>>>Also -- and this is a big also -- here's the complete 411 on this levy:
>>>West
>>>Park and Russell are crumbling. They're inadequate. It is my
>>>understanding
>>>that they are not in compliance with the ADA. What's more, it would be
>>>cheaper by far to scrap them both and build a new elementary school at
>>>the
>>>Joseph Street site So why don't we?
>>>
>>>Next levy.
>>>
>>>Well, I'd say it's because the Moscow School Board is sensitive to the
>>>emotional and aesthetic attachment many of us feel for West Park and/or
>>>Russell. (With regard to Russell in particular, its aesthetic appeal,
>>>history and location seem to be of paramount concern to many. And I'm
>>>glad
>>>for this. I think Russell is a beautiful school, and it would pain me to
>>>lose it.)
>>>
>>>Pains me to lose the aesthetically pleasing high school.
>>>
>>>.............disingenuous, disinformation websites like
>>>www.moscowlevy.com
>>>and www.moscoweducation.org.
>>>
>>>I see nothing but honesty and integrity from both of these websites. No
>>>dog
>>>and pony show. Just the facts.
>>>
>>>You know there might be plenty of money already in the school coffer. How
>>>come the school board is not prudently using our tax money to help these
>>>poor elementary schools?
>>>
>>>
>>>Just asking for the facts. Nothing more. Is the truth insulting?
>>>Sorry......
>>>.....the tide continues to rise as long as people ignore questions the
>>>public want answered..
>>>
>>>This outcome would certainly please Dale Courtney and Jack Wenders (both
>>>of
>>>whom were extensively, if ironically, educated on the public dime), but
>>>how
>>>many of the rest of us would be dancing in the streets? Precious few, I
>>>suspect; precious few.
>>>
>>>I think there are plenty more people that would like this levy not to
>>>pass.
>>>We will all shortly know.
>>>
>>>How about you ask the question(s) and see where you get?
>>>
>>>1) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST BREAKDOWN FROM THE ARCHITECT OF THE 20,500
>>>000.00 "REMODEL" OF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL."
>>>
>>>2) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE "DIRECTIVE" FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE
>>>ARCHITECT "DIRECTING" HOW THE BID IS TO BE DONE."
>>>
>>>Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
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