[Vision2020] Ten Simple Questions on the Bond
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 15 14:01:22 PDT 2005
Well, Mr. Arnold, you are wrong. In the meeting on Saturday and in the
material that has been repeatedly handed out, it is specific as to where the
Alternative High will be housed and what areas would be used by other
entities. Also, a "voc school" has been mentioned as being part of the
building use - that would be for the WHOLE community enrichment. The Latah
County has voiced an interest in the boulding as well, as was outlined at
the meeting and in the material.
And your numbers for the amount of students in the Alternative High are not
very accurate. There may be more full time students but there are a lot of
"part-timers" that attend. A part-time student is anyone taking less than
the full load of classes. That means they could be in one class or all but
one of them. Regardless, they still need the space and they still ALL need
to move as the building they are in is not a permanent placement.
Again, if you think you can do a better job of representing the public, run
for the board. But, be prepared for the back-lash you WILL receive if you
ever end up in a public position. If, in the meantime, you have ideas or
suggestions or contacts for these "several ways of getting millions of
federal dollars to the city through the University that will not the cost
the University any money and without involving the state legislature ",
please - feel free to put together a proposal that the school board can look
at and evaluate and move on. It is very easy to say this type of thing; it
is altogether something else to produce and follow-through with it.
>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ten Simple Questions on the Bond
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:22:13 -0700
>
>Jford,
>
>Thank you for that straight forward answer. I appreciate your response. It
>is my understanding however that they will be using the entire 1939 portion
>of the building, just not the 91 Annex. That seems like a great deal of
>space, and is it even well suited for them if it was not well suited for
>the non alternative high school students?
>
>I agree 100% that the school district is not as well funded as the
>University. I also do think the University should assist in the costs of
>running the city since we cannot tax them for the property they are sitting
>on but still have to take care of many of their expenses.
>
>There are in fact several ways of getting millions of federal dollars to
>the city through the University that will not the cost the University any
>money and without involving the state legislature. However, nobody on the
>city council, county commission, or MSB has bothered to pursue it.
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ten Simple Questions on the Bond
> >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:36:13 -0700
> >
> >Mr. Arnold;
> >
> >The alternative high is located in a building that is only on temporary
>loan to it. The school can not stay where it is. It does not fit the
>requirements of the school and the owner does not and did not want the
>school to be there permanently. Only part of the old high school building
>would be used for the 55(+) students. BTW, 55 is the number NOW; it is
>expected that number could rise over the next period of time. The building
>now being used is clearly not adequate for any more kids.
> >
> >Remodeling the high school for the alternative high is just ONE of the
>ways the building would be used. There are other ways the Facilities
>Committee have suggested and are investigating and have offers for use,
>that they are looking into. Again, this was clearly stated in all of the
>material and the meetings that have been held about this levy.
> >
> >The University is funded by tax dollars. They get a LOT more tax dollars
>than we at the local level get. Also, the University is funded by grants,
>research project monies and flat out gifts that alumni have given. The
>high school does not have the matrix for that type of money gathering.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ten Simple Questions on the Bond Date: Fri, 15
>Apr 2005 12:24:30 -0700
> >>
> >>Mr. Arnold asks:
> >>
> >>"1) How come it only costs $400,000 to make the High School safe for
> >>alternative high school students but would cost more than $20,000,000 to
> >>make it safe for the regular high school students?"
> >>
> >>Then goes on to ask:
> >>
> >>"3) There are only about 55 students at the current alternative high
> >>school. Using the old school for just 55 students seems like an
> >>extraordinary waste of space. It would seem prudent and less costly to
>keep
> >>the current location for the alternative high school and rent out the
>old
> >>high school."
> >>
> >>You seemed to have answered Question #1 with Question #3. Simple logic
> >>dictates that costs relating to making appropriate modifications of a
>high
> >>school to suit the needs of 55 students would be far less than making
>those
> >>same modifications for considerably more students.
> >>
> >>Also, a temporary solution for 55 students, as compared to a permanent
> >>modification for considerably more students (as outlined in the levy),
> >>reduces that cost extensively more.
> >>
> >>Perhaps Mr. Arnold should have attended that logic course that he
>mentioned
> >>in an earlier posting?
> >>
> >>- Questions 4 thru 9 lack sufficient substantiation as to suggest any
> >>meanwhile response -
> >>
> >>However, Mr. Arnold asks:
> >>
> >>"10) The school district says that the school is inadequate for
>education
> >>and we need a new high school. How can this be? The University of Idaho
>is
> >>rated as the most wired university in the west and the most
>technologically
> >>advanced school in the northwest. The University of Idaho's oldest
>buildings
> >>
> >>are running some of the most advanced technology in the northwest. If an
> >>older building then Moscow High School can run graduate level programs
>and
> >>sophisticated technology then Moscow High School should be able to teach
>at
> >>a high school level in a building only build in 1939."
> >>
> >>Call UI President White!
> >>
> >>Donovan Arnold has found the solution to all of the University of
>Idaho's
> >>budget problems. We will simply terminate any (and all) financial
>funding
> >>of all campus buildings constructed since 1939. A photo of the 1939 UI
> >>campus of which I have available on my primary website at:
> >>
> >>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Old_UofI.jpg
> >>
> >>Gee, Mr. Arnold. There are a lot of departments on campus that aren't
>going
> >>to like this.
> >>
> >>Take care, Moscow.
> >>
> >>Tom "The Skidoo Kid" (as they said in the mid 1930's) Hansen
> >>
> >>We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some
>are
> >>dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but they
>all
> >>exist very nicely in the same box.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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