[Vision2020] RE:Requests

Fri Apr 15 11:54:57 PDT 2005

Mr. Phil;

I am going to say this in as nice a way as I can:

You may make a request of any public office in writting (you can not make it 
via phone) and you may expect them to comply with the request within 3 
WORKING DAYS of your request.  It is not, by law, a solid 72 hours, it is 3 
working/business days that they have to respond.  The District Office people 
are very good about it, too.  Also, you can expect, by law, to have to pay 
for copying of the information if it is a lot of material.  That is only 
fair.  They are using their paper and their time; you would charge, too, if 
it were you being asked.  Even lawyers and doctors charge for copies of 
files and information.

You need to state in your request exactly what it is you want.  Do not be 
generic or wide in your wording.

There is NO $29mil remodel of the high school.  The $29mil is for the ENTIRE 
remodel/buidling project which includes two elementary schools and the high 
school and the new high school.  If you want a break-down of that, then you 
need say so.  BTW, that has been supplied to the newspapers, in newsletters, 
is available at the District Office and was very available on Saturday in 
the form of the individual handouts that the architect had for everyone's 
convenience.  Did you not get a copy of those?  I am sure if you went to the 
District Office and asked NICELY they would direct you to the material.  I 
beleive they are/will be available at the individucal schools also.

Are you looking for a "contract break-down" of the costs?  If so, that would 
probably be available once the bidding for contracters takes place or 
shortly after.  As was explained at the meeting, the costs as stated now are 
not EXACT (meaning they don't have the exact cost of the wood, bolts, 
supports, etc.), they are based on what this type of project generally 
costs, with built-in expansion or cost over-runs built in.  This is a 
typical manner of project development.  It is the contractors who bid that 
put exact costs into their bid and determine the exact costs of materials.

There is a saying: When you listen with both ears and an open mind, you tend 
to get what it is that is being said.

I am asking you to please learn to be a bit more contrite in your dealings 
with people.  All you do with antagonisim is set people off and make it 
harder on you to get what you want, ok?

And, please let up on Ms. Keely a bit.  She is not a paid person on the 
board, she is a volunteer.  As such, she takes from her personal, family 
time to work for the betterment, if you will, of the community and the 
children.  That is to be applauded, not constantly stepped on.  There is a 
seat on the Board coming available...consider running if you think you can 
do a better job than what has been done thus far.

>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] RE: question
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:12 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>Well Keely,
>
>I am trying my best to be as nice and direct to you as possible. That is 
>why
>I stated in my "PRIVATE-OFF LIST-NOT TO BOTHER ANYBODY ELSE" email the
>DIRECT question. I even said I am not making myself clear. In other words, 
>I
>was sorry that I created another email because you did not understand my
>first one.
>
>I do not want a pissing match. We do not have time to "play" before this
>election.
>
>Now that you have made my question to you "PUBLIC" we would ALL like to see
>the $29,000,000.00 BID from the architect on the "re-model" of the current
>high school and the "directive" to the architect on how he is to bid it. 
>The
>public is listening.
>
>I have formerly requested this information from the school district IN
>PERSON yesterday when I went to vote. Unfortunately, they do not know
>anything about a $29,000,000.00 bid or a 20,500,000.00 Bid. Only a $400,000
>00 Bid. They have to, by law, give me this information no later than 72
>hours. So I expect this answer no later than Monday. If I do not get the
>answer from the school district by Monday, I will ask the district attorney
>to get it for me.
>
>Thank You,
>Phil Roderick
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: keely emerinemix
>Date: 04/15/05 06:46:39
>To: CJs at Turbonet.com
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Spam] Re: [Spam] RE: question
>
>Phil,
>
>I regret that your tone has once again taken such a nasty turn.  Perhaps,
>though, I am not answering you properly.  The body of your paragraph to me
>indicates that you are not clear in your question or in the answers you
>expect.  I am very familiar with the document that breaks down the current
>HS remodel costs and am, in fact, sending a copy to another constituent
>today -- and not because he asked nicely, but because he asked clearly and
>rationally.  Snotty I can do.  But I can't read your mind and I can't be
>responsible for answering a question that isn't based on anything close to
>an understanding of the issue.
>
>So I'll make a copy for you and you can tell me where to mail it.  Deal,
>Phil?
>
>keely
>
>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>To: <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: question
>Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:48:25 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>You know what. Maybe I am not asking you properly. Let me ask you directly.
>I am looking for the cost breakdown from the architect to the school board,
>of the "remodel" of the current high school of $20.5 mil. I went to the
>school district today and they said they were not aware of any cost
>breakdown other than the $400,000.00 remodel "if" the high school is moved
>somewhere else.  Yes, I do have the handout from the Saturday open house.
>Thank you.
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: keely emerinemix
>Date: 04/14/05 20:39:09
>To: CJs at Turbonet.com
>Subject: [Spam] RE: question
>
>It was on the handouts at the HS on Saturday, and you can ask for copies at
>the district office.
>
>keely
>
>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>To: <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>Subject: question
>Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:17:01 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>Keely,
>
>In a previous email you said the following:
>
>"..............our bond includes a provision, within the cost of new
>construction/remodels, for furnishing, fixtures and equipment (FFEs), as
>they are considered part of the cost of building/remodeling.  The cost data
>has been available for some time and I hope you get a chance to look at 
>it."
>
>Can you please direct me to where I could find the cost data for the 
>remodel
>of the High School? I am having a dickens of a time trying to find it.
>
>Thank You,
>Phil
>
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