[Vision2020] School Levy (Vote No)
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 2 12:51:42 PST 2005
Mr. Arnold;
When was the last time you even stepped foot in the High School? When was
the last time you tried to walk the halls of the Junior High during class
change over? When was the last time you looked, REALLY looked at the
Russell and West Park Schools? Simply put, when was the last time you did
anything ACTIVE besides typing?
What homeless in Moscow do you see the need to spend $29mil on? With Idaho
Housing, is there a real need for MORE housing in Moscow?
Teacher salaries not an issue we can settle locally, is it? Aren't they
paid by the state standards? Wouldn't your arguement be better placed at
the feet of the legislators?
Just how many "crosswalk bridges" can Moscow support or even should support?
I see the need for one that links the dorms to the mall area, but I
certainly don't see the need for multple ones espcecially since we do have
plenty of crosswalks that the students refuse to use now. (Popular sport in
Moscow is not Dodgeball but Dodgestudents.)
The only issue you bring up that merits consideration is the water. But if
people would stop over developing Moscow, that may take care of itself. Not
to mention a WHOLE lot of rain...
It is rather obvious you "know not of which you speak" very well.
>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>To: auntiestablishment at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] School Levy (Vote No)
>Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:09:17 -0800
>
>Do we need a new High School?
>
>Why? There was nothing wrong with it when I attended it just 13 years ago.
>
>Is it because we have a huge influx of new high school students? Is it
>because we think the old HS cannot be renovated?
>
>Are we going to abandon the old HS, or are we suppose to have two High
>Schools?
>
>How can we afford two high schools when we cannot afford even one?
>
>How much more in property taxes are we going to pay to maintain and staff
>the new one?
>
>Why not just fix the old one if it is breaking down?
>
>Will the new school include bunk beds because many of their parents may be
>homeless with the continued outrageous property taxes being placed on
>people? Rents and housing prices are high enough. I am all for supporting
>education, but this idea makes no sense at all. So I will not support it
>unless they have strong reasons to raise the rent on everyone again and
>they answer my questions.
>
>
>Further, there are other issues that are more important than this that
>should warrant a bond levy of $29 million. How about $29 million for a low
>income housing and homeless center instead? Better pay for new teachers? A
>few crosswalk bridges across 3rd street? How about drinkable water? All of
>these issues effect everyone and need to be addressed before we start
>spending money we do not have on brand new schools.
>
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>
>
>>From: "Joan Opyr" <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>
>>To: "Vision2020 Moscow" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] School Levy (was Adolescent Humor)
>>Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 01:01:17 -0800
>>
>>I wrote that on this Sunday's show "Brother Carl and I will be addressing
>>Dale's nonsense regarding the upcoming school levy "
>>
>>And Dan asks:
>>
>>What part is nonsensical? The disclosure of the full amount (with
>>interest paid)? You get the same thing when you buy a house or finance a
>>car.
>>
>>What a surprise: bond payments include both principal and interest. Who
>>knew? Thank heavens for Dale Courtney! It would seem that those worms at
>>"The Money Tree" have lied to us again.
>>
>>Listen, Dale is just being inflammatory. When you search through the
>>"Parade of Homes" and read that a house on Mabelle is going for $182,000,
>>is that the figure you present to the bank or do you amortize over 30
>>years to make the price look unreasonable, hoping that the bank will take
>>one look and refuse to lend you the money? This, I'm afraid, is Dale's
>>trick And it's a clever trick, isn't it? $45 million sounds awful; it
>>sounds too painfully high. All that for two renovations and one new high
>>school? Good grief. But the facilities bond is, as claimed, a $29
>>million dollar bond. The voters haven't been deceived; they haven't been
>>lied to. $29 million is the amount that will be spent on school
>>construction and renovation; that's what we'll spend on bricks and sticks.
>> The rest will be paid in interest on the debt. Now, is anyone out there
>>stunned by this information? Is anyone experiencing shock and awe?
>>Dale's "real cost" analysis should be news to no one -- no one who has
>>ever borrowed money at interest. Despite the Bible's prohibitions against
>>usury, I'm afraid it's done nothing but flourish.
>>
>>Dale's $45 million figure is neither the beginning nor the end of his
>>disingenuous, anti-public education hooey. Dale's vast and drafty
>>assortment of charts and graphs (not to mention his manufactured concern
>>about the University of Idaho lay-offs) are a very thin mask for the fact
>>that members of the Wilson-Jones church oppose ALL funding for public
>>education. It wouldn't matter what the Moscow School Board asked for --
>>$29 million for a new high school and two substantial renovations or 29
>>cents for mud and toothpicks -- Doug/Dale would oppose the levy. I think
>>we can dispose of their arguments (such as they are) fairly quickly and
>>move on to more genuine concerns.
>>
>>The most important, I think, is the "urban sprawl" argument. I like and
>>respect Bill London, but I strongly disagree with him on this issue. I
>>don't see building a new high school on the Trail property as in any way
>>contributing to and/or creating urban sprawl. Moscow has been growing to
>>the North and East for some time now, and it is a simple matter of
>>economics that in order to prosper, we must continue to grow. Even with a
>>new school on the edge of town, it will still be possible to park onself
>>in the middle of Moscow, drive in any direction for five minutes, and wind
>>up smack dab in a wheatfield. The Palouse is not the Treasure Valley, and
>>it never will be. Our location is just too damned inconvenient. It seems
>>to me that a greater danger to our town is that we will become simply a
>>bedroom community for WSU. If the state legislature continues to
>>dismantle the U of I, what will replace the college as Moscow's primary
>>engine of growth? What will attract new businesses to Moscow? What would
>>make us an appealing location for, say, a firm like Schweitzer?
>>
>>Oh dear. Best put the cork back in the bottle for now. It's late; I'm
>>freshly back from lovely Missoula (a college town from whom Moscow could
>>learn a lesson or two); and I ought to be saving my school levy rants for
>>Sunday's show. I need to catch up on my Mortal Kombat/Beauty Sleep so
>>I'll feel fresh and invigorated when I open up this week's can of whoop
>>ass
>>
>>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>>www.auntie-establishment.com
>>
>>PS: Janice, I realize that your home borders the Trail property, and I
>>understand why you wouldn't want to live next door to a big high school.
>>Neither would I. I like living out in the middle of nowhere, and I like
>>my privacy. This is an argument I think you could fruitfully expand upon
>>and one that would appeal to many on this list. When I say that Carl and
>>I will be hanging up on anti-levy callers, I certainly don't mean to
>>dismiss people like you whose property/homes will be directly affected. I
>>mean to dismiss Doug and Dale who, once again, are the Friday farts at a
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