[Vision2020] Saudi Arabia: Free and Fair Elections?

[Donovan Arnold]

Ms. Kraut writes,

(Paul Cisneros) has been on all the talk shows talking about his project to 
send school supplies to the kids through the soldiers and this means that 
the children are learning a new way of life."

For $200B, 1000 American Lives, a dozen decapitations, and 10,000 Iraqi 
lives; Iraqi kids get crayons? Whoopee! I sure as hell hope it is box of 64 
and not just the cheap box of just 8.

Donovan J Arnold

PS. The literacy rate in Iraqi was better than 90% under Saddam.


>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Saudi Arabia: Free and Fair Elections?
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:03:50 -0700
>
>I am disappointed by your pessimism which is so much like all you hear from 
>the US Press. But, for me its like this: Paul Cisneros of the new show CSI: 
>New York has been on all the talk shows talking about his project to send 
>school supplies to the kids through the soldiers and this means that the 
>children are learning a new way of life. Most importantly they are learning 
>to read so that they don't have to believe what their leaders tell them 
>they can read it for themselves. The soldiers are helping these kids go to 
>school and stay there. If you don't read beyond the major press you don't 
>know this and everything in Iraq is bad to you...but there is good 
>happening. It won't happen easy or soon...but it can happen.
>PK
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tbertruss at aol.com
>   To: predator75 at moscow.com ; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com ; 
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:30 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Saudi Arabia: Free and Fair Elections?
>
>
>
>   DC:
>
>   We have military bases there, but we are not "occupying" Germany, Japan 
>or Cuba with troops and tanks in their streets.  In South Korea, we have a 
>more active military presence, actually guarding a border, but this is with 
>the relatively stable South Korean government's permission.
>
>   I am pointing out that we could be militarily "occupying" Iraq for 
>decades to prevent all hell from breaking loose (as if with us there now 
>all hell is not breaking loose!).  I doubt that if we leave the security of 
>Iraq to Iraqis that we will see a democratic system emerge.  If we really 
>withdraw and leave the country to whatever the Iraqis come up with, we will 
>see a brutal civil war or another brutal dictatorship.
>
>   Ted Moffett
>
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