[Vision2020] Re: Earlier question

[Ted Ryan]

Actually, lots of people trust me.  My wife, my kids, my extended family, my
friends, my co-workers and just about anyone who ventures in or onto
something I have designed.  In fact, this very Friday about 5000 people are
going to trust one of my newest designs as they watch a sporting event in a
stadium that I worked on as it is used for the first time.

I am not sure about the "too many misrepresentations".  You have not asked
me about them, why not?  What have a misrepresented?  I believe that I said
2+2 is 4 and water runs downhill.  I believe, after 6 years at WSU, that
those two statements are correct.  Throw me a bone here.

And you are wrong about my attendence at EEF.  While I am familiar with that
church, I have been to only one service there, about five years ago.  So,
you are guilty of at least one misrepresentation.  You have assumed,
incorectly, something about me and in the very same post accuse me of
misrepresentation?

I know nothing of the condition of EEF.  If what you say is true (that is,
an eminant split) that saddens me.

As far as a conversation with a certain PhD, that would be hard since I know
not of whom you speak.  And even if I did (I like using *and* at the
beginning of a sentence, drives some nuts, just like split infinitives) know
who this was, a PhD does not a wise person make.  I certainly would grant
the respect such a degree warrants, however, the PhD alone is not reason for
believing someone.

Someone who will not reveal themself, is one not to be trusted.  I suspect
you knew the question I was going to ask and if we knew who you were, than
you wouldn't be able to annonomously post here and say what you please
without consequence.

I actually feel sorry for you.  I am not sure if I should, but that is the
truth.  Every one of your posts seems to indicate some kind of bitterness
you have.  That is no way to live by my way of thinking.

I have no quarrel with you, can't we discuss these issues with more
civilality?  Is it so important that you bash someone nearly every time you
post?

Ted Ryan


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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Captain Kirker <captain_kirker at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Earlier question
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
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> Ted,
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> Negative, I said I was through with that thread. And no deal; you've been
caught in too many misrepresentations. You cannot be trusted.
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> Now, I asked about EEF for several reasons, and since your answer implied
an affirmative response, please consider the following.
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> First, SSAIW relied on Time on the Cross as its only source to support the
notion that Southern slavery was a benevolent institution. However, the
authors of Time on the Cross deny SSAIW' thesis, maintaining that Wilkins
and the Wolfman took their book out of context. Now with all the weeping and
gnashing of teeth we hear from kirkers about "false impressions," how come
we don't hear any lamentations for this awful perversion?
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> Second, you should know that your pastor, Dave Hatcher, knew about the
plagiarism in March 2003, but he deliberately withheld that information from
the Wolfman and NSA's Board of Trustees despite his office as a trustee.
(Ironically, Paul Kimmell inadvertently informed the Wolfman of Hatcher's
cover up.) Now, if plagiarism is a violation of the Eighth and Ninth
Commandments, regardless of intent, then why did Hatcher cover it up?
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> Third, the Wolfman has polarized EEF in the same way that he divided the
Palouse. Since January 2004 roughly twenty-five families have left EEF
because of his unhealthy influence, but Hatcher has done nothing about it.
In fact, things are so bad that he fears a split is imminent. So why won't
Hatcher address the cause of the hemorrhage?
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> Fourth, you can end the thread on slavery by asking a certain Ph.D. for
his critique of SSAIW. It will open your eyes.
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> Ciao.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: Ted Ryan
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> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:56 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Earlier question
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> Captain,
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> Didn't you say you were done posting here?
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> I am curious to what end the question will lead.  I wasn't aware that
there
> was another CRE church plant in Seattle.
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> Regardless, what Church I attend really doesn't matter, but I will answer
if
> I am allowed one question of you, that you will answer honestly.  Deal?
>
> Ted Ryan
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Captain Kirker <captain_kirker at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Earlier question
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
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> > Ted,
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> > Do you attend EEF or else the other CRE plant in Seattle?
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