[Vision2020] Re: Earlier question

Saundra Lund sslund at adelphia.net
Wed Sep 1 11:17:18 PDT 2004


Hi Again Ted,

Ted Ryan wrote:
"FOR THE FOURTH TIME, I AM NOT DEFENDING SLAVERY AND I AM NO ADVOCATING FOR ITS
RETURN. . . . I don't "advocate" owning another person.  The stake I have is
convincing anyone that the condition in the South in and around 1860 was not
what many believe.  I want to see history told accurately, and this has largely
not been the case in modern classrooms."

I'm happy to accept your ALL CAPS statement above if you'll accept that I'm not
being intentionally obtuse because I really am trying to understand your
point(s).

So, what is it you think is being taught incorrectly in modern classrooms?  I
think what I was taught in school about the Civil War was mostly very accurate
(early education was in OK & TX, followed by time in CA & ID schools) and is
supported by the readings I've done as an adult.  I believe the oral history
taught me through the generations and communities and churches.

What were you taught that you think is incorrect or inaccurate?  Or, what do you
think others were taught that's inaccurate?

BTW, I don't know if you saw it, but in my response to Dan Carscellan the other
day, I made reference to an article I highly recommend.  It's called "Rebel
Redemption Redux" and was written by Joshua
Michael Zeitz and published in Dissent in Winter 2001.  I also highly recommend
_Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass:  An American Slave" written by
Frederick Douglass, as well as the info Ron Force provided the link to
(http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/snhtml/), and the material available at the link
Tom Hansen provided (http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/fpn.html).

Perhaps this discussion could progress if you would provide details about what
you think is being taught incorrectly in modern classrooms with respect to the
South in & around 1860.

And, I'm looking forward to the reading list you're trying to track down --
thanks!  Perhaps that will help me understand the points you're trying to make &
I'm clearly missing thus far.


TIA,
Saundra Lund, who is immensely enjoying the first day back at school for her
teen  :-)
Moscow, ID

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
-Edmund Burke


-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On
Behalf Of Ted Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:49 AM
To: Melynda Huskey; Sunil Ramalingam
Cc: Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Earlier question

FOR THE FOURTH TIME, I AM NOT DEFENDING SLAVERY AND I AM NO ADVOCATING FOR ITS
RETURN.  I thought this was clear.  My original post was only meant to point out
the misunderstandings, mangling and quotations out of context of the original
pamphlet.  I don't "advocate" owning another person.  The stake I have is
convincing anyone that the condition in the South in and around 1860 was not
what many believe.  I want to see history told accurately, and this has largely
not been the case in modern classrooms.
 
The posts on this subject addressed at me have become overwhelming to the point
at which I cannot answer them all.  So, I will be selective.
 
Ted Ryan




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