[Vision2020] Bush and War with Iraq

Sat Oct 30 07:46:20 PDT 2004

I hope that Pat is now taking another look at Mr. Bush. I saw again last night on NOW with Bill Moyer (PBS) overwhelming evidence that the entire administration lied to us about going to war in Iraq and the program had the evidence to back it up. It is too bad the entire nation didn't see that program. I think it is repeated on Sunday night.

They showed Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice all lying in speeches when they had evidence that what they were saying was wrong. I've known all along that they had lied but this program had it all in one package. 

Dick Schmidt

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: katetegeilwe rwiza 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:11 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Bush and War with Iraq

  Pat,

  Part of President Bush's decision-making was based on his consultation with the "higher father". This statement is supported by facts from the following WebPages: http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/56790.php, http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/56790.php, http://www.q77.com/iraqwar/afpnews/afp226.htm

  Other good sources are books by Bob Woodward "Bush at War" & "Plan of Attack" 

  Rwiza

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  ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Dick Schmidt" <dickschmidt at moscow.com> To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>, "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:00:31 -0700 Pat, I heard that on a PBS discussion and I believe I also heard that on nightly news when someone asked him about it. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Kraut To: vision2020 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment I didn't hear that he ever said God told him to invade Iraq! Where did you get that? PK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Schmidt To: Joan Opyr ; Vision2020 Moscow Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment Pat, Anyone who has been paying attention to the issues and what has transpired in the past! 4 years under Bush sure wouldn't be voting to put him back for another term. I'm thinking that he is pretty close to a religious fanatic because he said God told him to invade Iraq. There are enough fanatics running countries in this world and we sure don't need one running ours. Dick Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Opyr To: Vision2020 Moscow Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment Pat writes: "I have come to the conclusion that people shouldn't be allowed to vote until they are 30 and have finished serious classes about the two parties and the candidates. AND about our history and what the different parts of our government actually do. I really am coming to believe that some people just shouldn't have the vote. All these kids that Ophra and others are getting registered only know what people are telling them. They have not yet paid enough taxes, tried to start a business or gone far enough in life to learn who th! ey really are and what they really think. I know that because I was on e of them. When I talk to people about our history and form of government I am well aware that too many people weren't listening in History classes." While the young arguably lack experience and occasionally wisdom, it's also the case that there's no fool like an old fool. Those 18 year-olds that Oprah and others are registering to vote represent our primary supply of warm, willing bodies for the war in Iraq. It's not the old white farts of Congress -- or of Latah County -- who are out there patrolling the sands of Samarra. And it's not the wrinkled and arthritic who will be paying off our national debt. No, it's those poor benighted young people, the ones Pat thinks ought to be disenfranchised who will be (and are) saddled with our burdens. If anyone should be denied the vote, perhaps it's those of us who are sitting here at home on our ignorant fat asses, watching reruns of "Murder She Wrote," racking up debt, and blowing out smoke about wolves and terrorists, snipe hunts ! and tax cuts. Youth doesn't make you stupid and age doesn't make you smart. Not only is discernment hard to measure, it's damned hard to find -- kind of like a fart in a Jacuzzi. You see, I did listen in history class, and what I learned is that the old bitch tends to repeat herself. Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________ List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________ List services made available by First Step Internet, se! rving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net ma ilto:Vision2020 at moscow.com ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________ List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// _____________________________________________________ List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 

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