[Vision2020] First Anniversary of Unfinished Trinity Debate

Nick Gier ngier at uidaho.edu
Fri Nov 12 08:54:23 PST 2004


Greetings:

I just got back from a 2-week trip to NC, DC, and NYC. While in the Big 
Apple I had a nice visit with Forrest Church, senior minister at All Souls 
Unitarian Universalist Church.  We were reminiscing about his two recent 
visits to Moscow.  Some of your may recall his debate with Doug Jones in 
September, 2003, which, although it was supposed to be on the nature of the 
good life, turned about to be a debate on the Trinity.

In the aftermath of that debate, I wrote a 5,000 word response to Jones and 
he promised that he would publish a two-round debate on the Trinity in 
Credenda Agenda.  I prepared my first 400-words and posted it on the 
Vision.   Many months later Jones answered with a 400-word response.  I 
thought that Jones had missed all the important points and he charged me 
with the same.  We agreed to start all over again, and I wrote a new salvo 
and posted on the Vision in June, 2004. (That piece is now the "Summary" of 
my long article at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/trinity.htm.) I thought that 
Jones would have plenty of time during his 2004 summer break to prepare his 
response, but so far there has been nichts, nada, nihil, ingenting, 
shunyata, or bloss nit, as Meister Eckhart would say in his medieval German.

So, Doug, what is the problem?  I will hold you to your promise to publish 
the full debate in your journal.

A Unitarian who finds Trinitarian speculation fascinating but confusing,

Nick Gier
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