[Vision2020] Was this "Nonsense?" From Vance's Campaign?

Thu, 27 May 2004 18:15:03 -0700

"my house is within city limits (just barely, but it is) and I received FOUR 
of them on the same day - all to the same address."--Shawn C.

Well, yes, I will concede that if you are stupid enough to mail 4 postcards 
to the same house on the same day, and it is after the election, of course 
you are stupid enough to blow 10 times the amount it would have cost someone 
with a brain to mail them.  Makes me wonder if the Post Office is activily 
pro-Schroeder or just if Vance himself was the brains behind the operation.

"But it's really all irrelevant now that Gary won"--Shawn

Nope it isn't. I think it is important to learn all you can from every 
election. Vance's Campaign was a perfect example of what NOT to do. And I 
think if Vance or anyone connected to the Anti-Schroeder Campaign was 
intentionally involved in anything illegal they should be prosecuted for it.

Well over 30,000 was spent against Schroeder, but Vance himself probably 
didn't spend more than 15,000 total.

The ads on the radio are more than $5-10, and were not Vance's ads.

Respectfully,

Donovan J Arnold

>From: "Shawn Clabough" <shawnc@outtrack.com>
>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Was this "Nonsense?" From Vance's Campaign?
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:56:18 -0700
>
><Lightly speaking> A couple things Donovan, my house is within city
>limits (just barely, but it is) and I received FOUR of them on the same
>day - all to the same address.  Did you mean to say "He did not even get
>(all) the houses..."?  I did not mean to say that this mailing alone
>would put him over $10,000 but add that postage to the printing costs,
>all the signs throughout the county and the costs of radio spots ($5-10
>per spot) and I believe you could get to more than $10,000.  But it's
>really all irrelevant now that Gary won.
>
>Shawn
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanarnold@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:14 AM
>To: Shawn Clabough; vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Was this "Nonsense?" From Vance's Campaign?
>
>Shawn,
>
>No, it would not be $10,000. It costs about 15 cents per household to
>bulk
>mail. There only about 5,500 metered households in Moscow, so it would
>only
>be about another 2,500 households in the remaining county. So if he got
>8,000 households at 15 cents a piece, it would only be about $1200. He
>did
>not even get the houses in the city limits, so I am guessing if was only
>
>half that amount at most.
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>
> >From: "Shawn Clabough" <shawnc@outtrack.com>
> >To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Was this "Nonsense?" From Vance's Campaign?
> >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 23:55:05 -0700
> >
> >Just today (due to a forwarding address, but still inside Moscow) I got
> >four of these over-sized postcards, two of each different version, and
> >remember that he had to pay for signs and mailings for the entire
> >district, not just Moscow, so that could easily exceed $10,000.
> >
> >
> >
> >Shawn
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> >On Behalf Of Tbertruss@aol.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:46 PM
> >To: lujane@lataheagle.com; jsullivan@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com
> >Subject: [Vision2020] Was this "Nonsense?" From Vance's Campaign?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >All:
> >
> >"Inquiring minds are dying to know" writes Janesta.
> >
> >I cannot speak for anyone else's definition of "nonsense," but I
> >received a mailing from the Vance campaign, or some group promoting
>him,
> >that I found not only to be "nonsense," but insulting and hilarious at
> >the same time.  Insulting because it used unflattering smear tactics
> >that denigrate a person's integrity, and hilarious because someone
> >somewhere fell for it, sadly, which is why personal smear tactics, and
> >argument ad hominem, will remain a fixture of political campaigns for
> >all eternity.
> >
> >The mailing on one side featured a picture of Gary Schroeder, blurry in
> >black and white on the left, with the question "What do we really know
> >about senator Gary Schroeder?" printed to the right of his photo in
> >white letters.  All over the bottom of the front of the mailing, in
> >ominous red letters, were various words and phrases followed by
> >questions marks. Two of the most pointed "questions" were partly
> >covering Gary's photo.  The biggest red word in the size of the
> >lettering was, one of the biggest button pushing words in the political
> >vocabulary, "TAXES?"  This red lettered word partly covered Gary's
>chin,
> >no doubt a placement chosen for maximum psychological effect.  Right
> >below "TAXES?" in smaller red letters was another button pushing phrase
> >utilizing a theme that has been employed to great success by Republican
> >political propagandists during the past 20 years.  Yes, we were
>supposed
> >to think that Gary's support for "FAMILY VALUES?" was black and while
> >and bit blurry, like he was presented in the photo on this mailing.
> >
> >The other side of the mailing asserted Gary was out of step with Latah
> >Republicans, with a laundry list of his alleged questionable votes in
> >government and positions on various issues.  Of course he was painted
>as
> >"pro-abortion," as if anybody is!
> >
> >This mailing passes my test for "nonsense."  No doubt it cost a bit of
> >money to create and mail.
> >
> >I wonder, did this mailing only go to rural Latah County residents, or
> >did people in the city limits of Moscow receive this also?
> >
> >Ted Moffett
> >
>
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