[Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?
Tom Hansen
thansen@moscow.com
Wed, 19 May 2004 05:43:05 -0700
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Ms. Kraut -
Are you suggesting that our president should be required to follow the
guidance of his/her religion (regardless of what it is) in making decisions
from the White House Oval Office concerning the future of the United States?
Please advise.
Tom Hansen
Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of
others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of
hope."
Robert F. Kennedy
(1925-1968, American Attorney General, Senator)
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Pat Kraut
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:30 PM
To: vision2020
Subject: [Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?
It seems to me that lately so many of the publications that we had respect
for have fallen on their swords. Who and what are we to believe?
I have also heard that Catholics all have sex with the priest in the
confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. It curious to me that
every email that responded to this completely ignored the part about Kerry
and the other politicians and their voting records that are opposite of the
tenets of the church. Thats what my email was really about.
Have a great day
PK
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Force
To: Vision2020 Moscow
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] As if we needed any more . . .
It's surprising that the Economist got caught reprinting bogus
information from the Internet without fact checking. The original assertion
been traced back to a posting to rec.org.mensa. The book cited as
containing the IQ data, IQ and the Wealth of Nations, doesn't. The original
author won't answer inquiries.
When we're asked for statistical data at the UI Library, one of the
first things we think is "Who would compile it, and where would it be
published?".
IQ tests were routinely given to military recruits up through WW2, but I
don't know of any agency or institution that uses them anymore. Public
schools don't use them either. Lacking any obvious source for the data
immediately raises a red flag. In this case, skepticism is warranted.
More information at: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/
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Ron Force Moscow ID USA
rforce@moscow.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Joan Opyr
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 6:59 PM
To: Vision2020 Moscow
Subject: [Vision2020] As if we needed any more . . .
Proof that Democrats really are smarter than Republicans? >From the
latest issue of The Economist, May 15th - 21st, 2004. The original source
of the data is "IQ and the Wealth of Nations," by Richard Lynn and Tatu
Vanhanen.
State -- Average IQ -- 2000 Presidential vote
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concerning the future of the United States?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D175153912-19052004><FONT face=3Dverdana>Please=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D175153912-19052004>Not On The Palouse, Not =
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<P><FONT size=3D2>"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to =
improve the=20
lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny =
ripple of=20
hope."<BR><BR>Robert F. Kennedy<BR>(1925-1968, American Attorney =
General,=20
Senator)</FONT> </P>
<P></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=3DTahoma>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On =
Behalf Of=20
</B>Pat Kraut<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:30 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
vision2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] It is a matter of=20
trust?<BR><BR></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>It seems to me that lately so many of the =
publications=20
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believe?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have also heard that Catholics all have sex =
with the=20
priest in the confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. It =
curious=20
to me that every email that responded to this completely ignored the =
part=20
about Kerry and the other politicians and their voting records that =
are=20
opposite of the tenets of the church. Thats what my email was really =
about.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Have a great day</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PK</FONT></DIV>
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] As =
if we=20
needed any more . . .</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>It's surprising that the =
Economist got=20
caught reprinting bogus information from the Internet without =
fact=20
checking. The original assertion been traced back to a posting =
to <!--StartFragment -->rec.org.mensa. The book cited as =
containing=20
the IQ data, <EM>IQ and the Wealth of Nations,</EM> doesn't. =
The=20
original author won't answer inquiries.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>When we're asked for =
statistical data at=20
the UI Library, one of the first things we think is "Who would =
compile it,=20
and where would it be published?".</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>IQ tests were routinely given =
to=20
military recruits up through WW2, but I don't know of any agency or=20
institution that uses them anymore. Public schools don't use =
them=20
either. Lacking any obvious source for the data immediately =
raises a=20
red flag. In this case, skepticism is warranted.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>More information at: <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/">http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/</A=
></SPAN></DIV>
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<P>**********************************************<BR>Ron=20
Force Moscow=20
ID <SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>USA</SPAN></P>
<P><A href=3D"mailto:rforce@moscow.com">rforce@<SPAN=20
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face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Joan Opyr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 17, 2004 6:59=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Vision2020 Moscow<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
As if=20
we needed any more . . .<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Proof that Democrats really are smarter than =
Republicans? =20
>From the latest issue of The Economist, May 15th - 21st, =
2004. =20
The original source of the data is "IQ and the Wealth of =
Nations," by=20
Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>State -- Average IQ -- 2000 Presidential=20
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