[Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?

Pat Kraut pkraut@moscow.com
Tue, 18 May 2004 22:30:20 -0700


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It seems to me that lately so many of the publications that we had =
respect for have fallen on their swords. Who and what are we to believe?
I have also heard that Catholics all have sex with the priest in the =
confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. It curious to me =
that every email that responded to this completely ignored the part =
about Kerry and the other politicians and their voting records that are =
opposite of the tenets of the church. Thats what my email was really =
about.=20
Have a great day
PK

 ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ron Force=20
  To: Vision2020 Moscow=20
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:52 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] As if we needed any more . . .


  It's surprising that the Economist got caught reprinting bogus =
information from the Internet without fact checking.  The original =
assertion been traced back to a posting to rec.org.mensa.   The book =
cited as containing the IQ data, IQ and the Wealth of Nations, doesn't. =
The original author won't answer inquiries.

  When we're asked for statistical data at the UI Library, one of the =
first things we think is "Who would compile it, and where would it be =
published?".

  IQ tests were routinely given to military recruits up through WW2, but =
I don't know of any agency or institution that uses them anymore. Public =
schools don't use them either.  Lacking any obvious source for the data =
immediately raises a red flag. In this case, skepticism is warranted.

  More information at: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/

  **********************************************
  Ron Force         Moscow ID USA

  rforce@moscow.com

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Joan Opyr
    Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 6:59 PM
    To: Vision2020 Moscow
    Subject: [Vision2020] As if we needed any more . . .


    Proof that Democrats really are smarter than Republicans?  >From the =
latest issue of The Economist, May 15th - 21st, 2004.  The original =
source of the data is "IQ and the Wealth of Nations," by Richard Lynn =
and Tatu Vanhanen.=20

    State -- Average IQ -- 2000 Presidential vote
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>It seems to me that lately so many of the =
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priest in the confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. It =
curious to=20
me that every email that responded to this completely ignored the part =
about=20
Kerry and the other politicians and their voting records that are =
opposite of=20
the tenets of the church. Thats what my email was really about. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Have a great day</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PK</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 18, 2004 =
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AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] As if =
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  any more . . .</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>It's surprising that the =
Economist got=20
  caught reprinting bogus&nbsp;information from the Internet without =
fact=20
  checking.&nbsp; The original assertion been traced back to a posting =
to <!--StartFragment -->rec.org.mensa.&nbsp;&nbsp; The book cited as =
containing=20
  the IQ data, <EM>IQ and the Wealth of Nations,</EM>&nbsp;doesn't. The =
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  author won't answer inquiries.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>When we're asked for statistical =
data at=20
  the UI Library, one of the first things we think is "Who would compile =
it, and=20
  where would it be published?".</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>IQ tests were routinely given to =
military=20
  recruits up through WW2, but I don't know of any agency or institution =
that=20
  uses them anymore.&nbsp;Public schools don't use them either. =
&nbsp;Lacking=20
  any obvious source for the data immediately raises a red flag. In this =
case,=20
  skepticism is warranted.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D265433417-18052004>More information at: <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/">http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/</A=
></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P>**********************************************<BR>Ron=20
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf=20
    Of </B>Joan Opyr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 17, 2004 6:59 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    Vision2020 Moscow<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] As if we needed =
any more .=20
    . .<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Proof that Democrats really are smarter than Republicans?&nbsp; =

    &gt;From the latest issue of The Economist, May 15th - 21st, =
2004.&nbsp; The=20
    original source of the data is "IQ and the Wealth of =
Nations,"&nbsp;by=20
    Richard Lynn and Tatu&nbsp;Vanhanen.&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>State --&nbsp;Average IQ&nbsp;-- 2000 Presidential=20
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