[Vision2020] Kerry's election to lose?

Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com
Mon, 10 May 2004 07:33:49 -0700


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This is true.  Who took the pictures and why these pictures werte take is
virtually moot.

I would be more concerned with examining the chain of command and
discovering if and where those orders originated.  I simply have a gut
feeling that the order to conduct interrogations in this manner originated
alot highr than some sergeant.

Just a thought,

Tom Hansen
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Sunil Ramalingam [mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:03 AM
  To: thansen@moscow.com
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Kerry's election to lose?


  If Hersch is correct, then Pat Kraut's question about who was taking
photos and why would be answered.

  Sunil



  >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>
  >Reply-To: <thansen@moscow.com>
  >To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>,
<dickschmidt@moscow.com>,   <jsullivan@moscow.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com>,
<pduffau@adelphia.net>
  >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Kerry's election to lose?
  >Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 06:53:28 -0700
  >
  >Sunil -
  >
  >As much as I consider the photos to be reprehensible, I also feel that
the
  >threats to post the photos around the neighborhood to be a simple
  >interrogation tactic.
  >
  >I do not consider the threat to pass the photos around the neighborhood
to
  >be a criminal offense or in violation of the Geneva Convention.
  >
  >But, then there are the photos themselves . . .
  >
  >Take care,
  >
  >Tom Hansen
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
  >Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
  >   Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:25 AM
  >   To: dickschmidt@moscow.com; jsullivan@moscow.com;
vision2020@moscow.com;
  >pduffau@adelphia.net
  >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry's election to lose?
  >
  >
  >   According to Seymour Hersch this morning on NPR (you can catch it
around
  >730 again), the pictures were taken so that the prisoners could be told
  >'We'll plaster these around your neighborhood,' (I'm paraphrasing).
  >
  >   Sunil
  >
  >
  >
  >   >From: "Dick Schmidt" <dickschmidt@moscow.com>
  >   >To: "JSullivan" <jsullivan@moscow.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com>,
"Paul
  >Duffau" <pduffau@adelphia.net>
  >   >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry's election to lose?
  >   >Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:48:06 -0700
  >   >
  >   >All,
  >   >
  >   >You can bet now that digital cameras and all other photography
equipment
  >will be forbidden in Iraq. THAT is how the military operates when they
are
  >embarrassed. Thank goodness photographs were taken to prove what
happened.
  >Many times commissioned officers have to be hit between the eyes to get
  >their attention.
  >   >
  >   >Dick Schmidt
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sunil Ramalingam=20
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  Kerry's election to lose?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P>If Hersch is correct, then Pat Kraut's question about who was=20
  taking&nbsp;photos and why&nbsp;would be answered.</P>
  <P>Sunil<BR><BR></P></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Tom Hansen" &lt;thansen@moscow.com&gt;=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sunil -=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt;As much as I consider the photos to be reprehensible, I =
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  feel that the=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;threats to post the photos around the neighborhood to =
be a=20
  simple=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;interrogation tactic.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I do not consider the threat to pass the photos around =
the=20
  neighborhood to=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;be a criminal offense or in violation of the Geneva =
Convention.=20

  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;But, then there are the photos themselves . . .=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Take care,=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Tom Hansen=20
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  vision2020@moscow.com;=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; According to Seymour Hersch this morning =
on NPR=20
  (you can catch it around=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;730 again), the pictures were taken so that the =
prisoners could=20
  be told=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;'We'll plaster these around your neighborhood,' (I'm=20
  paraphrasing).=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sunil=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;You can bet now that digital cameras =
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  when they are=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;embarrassed. Thank goodness photographs were taken to =
prove=20
  what happened.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Many times commissioned officers have to be hit between =
the=20
  eyes to get=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;their attention.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Dick Schmidt=20
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