[Vision2020] Retractions coming??
Joan Opyr
auntiestablishment@hotmail.com
Tue, 4 May 2004 10:30:42 -0700
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I wrote:
>Both Bill Clinton and Al Gore testified in public and on the record. =20
Pardon me; I misspoke. Clinton and Gore did not testify in public. They=
met privately with the commissioners. Gore testified for three hours, C=
linton for four. Their testimony was recorded/transcribed. Some of it d=
ealt with classified matters and will be redacted in the official transcr=
ipts, as is standard. Both had advisers present, but Clinton and Gore di=
d not testify together.
Bush and Cheney, together, met with the commission for three hours. Also=
present were White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and two of staff attor=
neys. The meeting was neither recorded nor transcribed. Committee membe=
rs were merely allowed to take notes.
Now, why Pat thinks that any of this information would inspire a retracti=
on of the various cracks we've made about George Bush's unwillingness to =
appear before the 9/11 commission without his pal Dick Cheney in tow is a=
mystery. Mr. Bush set limits on his own testimony that made him look ri=
diculous at best, disingenuous at worst. The sitting president you're so=
fond of, Pat, is forever comparing 9/11 to Pearl Harbor, but unlike Fran=
klin Roosevelt, who created a blue ribbon panel to investigate that attac=
k shortly after it happened, Mr. Bush stalled the creation of the 9/11 co=
mmission for more than a year. Once it was finally established, over his=
objections, he attempted to block its funding, he tried to keep Condolee=
zza Rice from testifying, and he turned somersaults and backflips to avoi=
d testifying himself. It was only when these positions became politicall=
y untenable -- after Richard Clarke's searing indictment of the administr=
ation's pre-9/11 inaction -- that Mr. Bush agreed to testify, and then hi=
s testimony was not on the record and it was not on his own. It was with=
aid and abetment of Dick Cheney, whom many suspect of being the real pow=
er (or is that brains?) behind the throne.
Bush made himself look silly, weak and ignorant. He didn't need any help=
from the late night comics on this list -- though I, for one, thank him =
for the great material.
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV> </DIV> <=
DIV>I wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>Both Bill Clinton and Al Go=
re testified in public and on the record. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> =
<DIV>Pardon me; I misspoke. Clinton and Gore did not testify in pub=
lic. They met privately with the commissioners. Gore testifie=
d for three hours, Clinton for four. Their testimony was recor=
ded/transcribed. Some of it dealt with classified matters and will =
be redacted in the official transcripts, as is standard. Both had a=
dvisers present, but Clinton and Gore did not testify together.</DIV=
> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bush and Cheney, together, met with the com=
mission for three hours. Also present were White House Co=
unsel Alberto Gonzales and two of staff attorneys. The me=
eting was neither recorded nor transcribed. Committee members were =
merely allowed to take notes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now, why Pat t=
hinks that any of this information would inspire a retraction of the=
various cracks we've made about George Bush's unwillingness to appe=
ar before the 9/11 commission without his pal Dick Cheney in tow is a mys=
tery. Mr. Bush set limits on his own testimony that made him look r=
idiculous at best, disingenuous at worst. The sitting presiden=
t you're so fond of, Pat, is forever comparing 9/11 to Pea=
rl Harbor, but unlike Franklin Roosevelt, who created a blue ri=
bbon panel to investigate that attack shortly after i=
t happened, Mr. Bush stalled the creation of the 9/11 commission for=
more than a year. Once it was finally established, over his object=
ions, he attempted to block its funding, he tried to keep Condoleezz=
a Rice from testifying, and he turned somersaults and backflips to a=
void testifying himself. It was only when these positions became po=
litically untenable -- after Richard Clarke's searing indictment of the a=
dministration's pre-9/11 inaction -- that Mr. Bush agreed to testify, and=
then his testimony was not on the record and it was not on his own. =
; It was with aid and abetment of Dick Cheney, whom many suspect of&=
nbsp;being the real power (or is that brains?) behind the throne.</DIV> <=
DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bush made himself look silly, weak and ignorant.&nb=
sp; He didn't need any help from the late night comics on this list -- th=
ough I, for one, thank him for the great material.</DIV> <DIV> =
</DIV> <DIV>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment</DIV> <DIV> &=
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