[Vision2020] Calvin was a revolutionary!

Donovan Arnold donovanarnold@hotmail.com
Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:50:29 -0800


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<P>No, he was not.<BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Nick Gier <NGIER@UIDAHO.EDU>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: vision2020@moscow.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [Vision2020] Calvin was a revolutionary! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:48:56 -0800 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Visionaries and Lurkers: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Even though I told me that he was all wet on defining 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;fundamentalism, I value Ed Sebasta's contribution to this public 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;forum.&nbsp;&nbsp;He has been an invaluable source of information about Wilson 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and his neo-Confederate associates.&nbsp;&nbsp;So I thank him once again for 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;giving us a link to Elizabeth Fox-Genovese's new journal. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Since Mr. and Mrs. Fox-Genovese are widely cited by the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;neo-Confederates and NSA has invited her to speak, then we must 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;question once again Wilson's denials that he is not at all 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;associated with the neo-Confederacy.&nbsp;&nbsp;Perhaps one of us should send 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the distinguished couple a copy of the slavery booklet and see what 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;they think of it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I doubt if Wilson will do that himself. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I looked at the contents of "The Journal of the Historical Society" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and my initial impression is that it is a solid professional 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;journal.&nbsp;&nbsp;With regard to the recent "history" conference, one 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;article especially caught my eye.&nbsp;&nbsp;The theme of the conference 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;appeared to be that good Christians are reformers, but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;revolutionaries are agents of the Devil.&nbsp;&nbsp;So take a look at what 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Robert M. Kingdom says about Calvin the Revolutionary: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"In the city-state of Geneva, the community whose history I know 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;best, the Protestant Reformation ranked as a revolution, and it 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;probably had the ingredients of revolution in many other areas as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;well. In Geneva there can be little doubt that the Protestant 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reformation was a full revolution-in government, in society, and in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;religion. It led to the destruction of one type of government and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;its replacement with a new and radically different type of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;government. Before the Reformation, the city of Geneva was the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;capital of a large bishopric governed by the prince-bishop with the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;assistance of the canons of his cathedral chapter; of certain agents 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;of the duchy of Savoy, the largest secular power in the area; and, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;within the city, of a council of local merchants and lay 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;professionals." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Nick Gier 
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