[Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
Kyle DeSpinauer
regionalenquirer@hotmail.com
Sat, 06 Mar 2004 03:07:26 +0000
i don't really get the sackcloth and ashes reference. am i supposed to don
this? is rose supposed to don this? what's your point? i wish people
would stop alluding to the bible all the time, pro or con. i've heard
enough religious references from both sides to leave me gasping for the
fresh air of common sense.
religion has nothing to do with this. same with intelligence. same with
passion. same with honor. some of the most intelligent, passionate, and
honorable people i know also happen to be the most unbalanced people i have
ever met. the psychiatrist's couch is full of them. the pulpits are full
of them too, keely. and the coffers of the pharmaceutical companies are
full of their money. we need less fanaticism, less fixation, less frenzy on
this here listserv. and less hypocrisy. and less scripture spouting.
that people like me would feel the need to scramble some letters in their
last name to avoid the "concerned" citizens from calling their place of
work, doing background checks, electronically stalking them, and just
raising hell with whatever they can find (or imagine) in order to get their
jollies (in the name of accountability, of course) is a sign that things
have gone haywire. no, i learned my lesson from watching the whole edna
wilmington thing to know better. call me a coward as much as you want to
wayne, but i aint gonna bite that hooked worm of yours. and you can't beat
it out of me, not even with joan's steel-tipped dominatrix boots.
>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1@msn.com>
>To: "Kyle DeSpinauer" <regionalenquirer@hotmail.com>
>CC: <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:18:23 -0800
>
>Rose Huskey hardly needs me to defend her, but I will. This intelligent,
>passionate and honorable woman has consistently asked for integrity and
>accountability from those religious leaders who seem intent on avoiding
>same, and if that's "throwing a tizzy," then 'tis a good thing, indeed.
>Rose and I don't always agree, but she has my respect and the respect of
>many others.
>
>Yeah, I can see why those "puffed up with knowledge" might fear her
>needling, but perhaps the remedy might be the donning of sackcloth and
>ashes, the abrasiveness of which has been known to effectively puncture all
>pretense. Trust me. I know.
>
>keely emerine mix
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kyle DeSpinauer
> To: DonaldH675@aol.com ; vision2020@moscow.com
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
>
>
> sorry about your son, rose. but in future discussion on this list,
>maybe
> you could withhold judgment in a manner that you would probably prefer
> people do for you. you rose, are the childlike presence that throws a
>new
> tizzy a week, and those of us who belong to no particular extreme get
>tired
> of hearing it again, and again, and again, and again. one note, only
>one
> note, do you continually sing. how does it feel rose when somebody else
> gets personal with you and starts accusing, accusing, accusing. oh,
>it's
> just finding out information, that's right, enquiring by a concerned
> citizen. poke, poke that finger in the eye. i now understand why they
>call
> it needling.
>
> if you and the rest would let up for just a season, then i suppose i
>could
> go away. if you want the nonjudgmental space in which to do what is
> reasonable, appropriate, and humane for a particular situation, maybe
>you
> ought to consider extending the franchise, even to those you loathe.
>that
> is my point, and your response aptly illustrates its merit.
>
>
> >From: DonaldH675@aol.com
> >To: vision2020@moscow.com, regionalenquirer@hotmail.com
> >Subject: [Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
> >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:58:29 EST
> >
> >Visionaries and Regional Enquirer,
> >
> >It is a tired old rhetorical device to attempt to switch the topic by
> >drawing
> >attention to an unrelated issue. Children frequently indulge in this
> >tactic,
> >for example, "Well, maybe I did get into the cookie jar without
>permission,
> >but she swore and that's worse." Of course, the language used by
>Regional
> >Enquirer doesn't really sound child like, does it? When I read a
>phrase
> >like a
> >"presumptive hypothetical" it sounds like attorney talk to me. Could
>that
> >be
> >the case?
> >
> >Although I don't feel a moral obligation to justify my right to ask
> >questions
> >related to the gambling cover up operation at Christ Church, I also
>don't
> >feel embarrassed about my son Ben and his use of marijuana. As his
> >Systemic
> >Lupus progressed he was both in acute pain and profoundly depressed.
>Like
> >many
> >folks with terminal disease, his appetite decreased and he was
>dramatically
> >emaciated. Although he didn't use marijuana in our home (he literally
> >honored the
> >lifelong family rule against the use of drugs in our home) I was indeed
> >aware
> >that he smoked marijuana. I could tell because when he smoked a joint
>he
> >was
> >both hungry and happy - a combination of feelings that he rarely
> >experienced
> >otherwise. Did law enforcement know that he was using marijuana, yes,
>they
> >certainly did. When he experimented with what I considered to be a
>"hard
> >drug"
> >did I learn about it and turn him in? Yes, I did. Does this make me a
> >stool
> >pigeon or an uncaring parent? I don't know, I did what I thought I had
>to
> >do
> >as a responsible parent and responsible citizen.
> >
> >I would only add, Regional Enquirer, when Ben was removed from life
> >support,
> >he was in fact, marijuana free.
> >
> >Rose Huskey
> >Once you lose integrity everything else is easy.
>
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