[Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
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Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:18:23 -0800
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Rose Huskey hardly needs me to defend her, but I will. This intelligent, =
passionate and honorable woman has consistently asked for integrity and =
accountability from those religious leaders who seem intent on avoiding =
same, and if that's "throwing a tizzy," then 'tis a good thing, indeed. =
Rose and I don't always agree, but she has my respect and the respect of =
many others.
Yeah, I can see why those "puffed up with knowledge" might fear her =
needling, but perhaps the remedy might be the donning of sackcloth and =
ashes, the abrasiveness of which has been known to effectively puncture =
all pretense. Trust me. I know.
keely emerine mix=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kyle DeSpinauer=20
To: DonaldH675@aol.com ; vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
sorry about your son, rose. but in future discussion on this list, =
maybe=20
you could withhold judgment in a manner that you would probably prefer =
people do for you. you rose, are the childlike presence that throws a =
new=20
tizzy a week, and those of us who belong to no particular extreme get =
tired=20
of hearing it again, and again, and again, and again. one note, only =
one=20
note, do you continually sing. how does it feel rose when somebody =
else=20
gets personal with you and starts accusing, accusing, accusing. oh, =
it's=20
just finding out information, that's right, enquiring by a concerned=20
citizen. poke, poke that finger in the eye. i now understand why =
they call=20
it needling.
if you and the rest would let up for just a season, then i suppose i =
could=20
go away. if you want the nonjudgmental space in which to do what is=20
reasonable, appropriate, and humane for a particular situation, maybe =
you=20
ought to consider extending the franchise, even to those you loathe. =
that=20
is my point, and your response aptly illustrates its merit.
>From: DonaldH675@aol.com
>To: vision2020@moscow.com, regionalenquirer@hotmail.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Answers about law breaking
>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:58:29 EST
>
>Visionaries and Regional Enquirer,
>
>It is a tired old rhetorical device to attempt to switch the topic by =
>drawing
>attention to an unrelated issue. Children frequently indulge in this =
>tactic,
>for example, "Well, maybe I did get into the cookie jar without =
permission,
>but she swore and that's worse." Of course, the language used by =
Regional
>Enquirer doesn't really sound child like, does it? When I read a =
phrase=20
>like a
>"presumptive hypothetical" it sounds like attorney talk to me. Could =
that=20
>be
>the case?
>
>Although I don't feel a moral obligation to justify my right to ask=20
>questions
>related to the gambling cover up operation at Christ Church, I also =
don't
>feel embarrassed about my son Ben and his use of marijuana. As his=20
>Systemic
>Lupus progressed he was both in acute pain and profoundly depressed. =
Like=20
>many
>folks with terminal disease, his appetite decreased and he was =
dramatically
>emaciated. Although he didn't use marijuana in our home (he =
literally=20
>honored the
>lifelong family rule against the use of drugs in our home) I was =
indeed=20
>aware
>that he smoked marijuana. I could tell because when he smoked a =
joint he=20
>was
>both hungry and happy - a combination of feelings that he rarely=20
>experienced
>otherwise. Did law enforcement know that he was using marijuana, =
yes, they
>certainly did. When he experimented with what I considered to be a =
"hard=20
>drug"
>did I learn about it and turn him in? Yes, I did. Does this make me =
a=20
>stool
>pigeon or an uncaring parent? I don't know, I did what I thought I =
had to=20
>do
>as a responsible parent and responsible citizen.
>
>I would only add, Regional Enquirer, when Ben was removed from life=20
>support,
>he was in fact, marijuana free.
>
>Rose Huskey
>Once you lose integrity everything else is easy.
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<DIV>Rose Huskey hardly needs me to defend her, but I will.=20
This intelligent, passionate and honorable woman has consistently =
asked=20
for integrity and accountability from those religious leaders who =
seem=20
intent on avoiding same, and if that's "throwing a tizzy," then 'tis a =
good=20
thing, indeed. Rose and I don't always agree, but she has my =
respect and=20
the respect of many others.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yeah, I can see why those "puffed up with knowledge" might fear her =
needling, but perhaps the remedy might be the donning of sackcloth and =
ashes,=20
the abrasiveness of which has been known to effectively puncture all=20
pretense. Trust me. I know.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>keely emerine mix </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:regionalenquirer@hotmail.com">Kyle DeSpinauer</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:DonaldH675@aol.com">DonaldH675@aol.com</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 05, 2004 =
2:13=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] =
Answers about=20
law breaking</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>sorry about your son, rose. but in future =
discussion on=20
this list, maybe <BR>you could withhold judgment in a manner that you =
would=20
probably prefer <BR>people do for you. you rose, are the =
childlike=20
presence that throws a new <BR>tizzy a week, and those of us who =
belong to no=20
particular extreme get tired <BR>of hearing it again, and again, and =
again,=20
and again. one note, only one <BR>note, do you continually =
sing. =20
how does it feel rose when somebody else <BR>gets personal with you =
and starts=20
accusing, accusing, accusing. oh, it's <BR>just finding out =
information,=20
that's right, enquiring by a concerned <BR>citizen. poke, poke =
that=20
finger in the eye. i now understand why they call <BR>it=20
needling.<BR><BR>if you and the rest would let up for just a season, =
then i=20
suppose i could <BR>go away. if you want the nonjudgmental space =
in=20
which to do what is <BR>reasonable, appropriate, and humane for a =
particular=20
situation, maybe you <BR>ought to consider extending the franchise, =
even to=20
those you loathe. that <BR>is my point, and your response aptly=20
illustrates its merit.<BR><BR><BR>>From: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:DonaldH675@aol.com">DonaldH675@aol.com</A><BR>>To: =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>, <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:regionalenquirer@hotmail.com">regionalenquirer@hotmail.com=
</A><BR>>Subject:=20
[Vision2020] Answers about law breaking<BR>>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 =
13:58:29=20
EST<BR>><BR>>Visionaries and Regional =
Enquirer,<BR>><BR>>It is a=20
tired old rhetorical device to attempt to switch the topic by=20
<BR>>drawing<BR>>attention to an unrelated issue. Children =
frequently indulge in this <BR>>tactic,<BR>>for example, "Well, =
maybe I=20
did get into the cookie jar without permission,<BR>>but she swore =
and=20
that's worse." Of course, the language used by =
Regional<BR>>Enquirer=20
doesn't really sound child like, does it? When I read a phrase=20
<BR>>like a<BR>>"presumptive hypothetical" it sounds like =
attorney talk=20
to me. Could that <BR>>be<BR>>the =
case?<BR>><BR>>Although I=20
don't feel a moral obligation to justify my right to ask=20
<BR>>questions<BR>>related to the gambling cover up operation at =
Christ=20
Church, I also don't<BR>>feel embarrassed about my son Ben and his =
use of=20
marijuana. As his <BR>>Systemic<BR>>Lupus progressed he =
was both=20
in acute pain and profoundly depressed. Like =
<BR>>many<BR>>folks=20
with terminal disease, his appetite decreased and he was=20
dramatically<BR>>emaciated. Although he didn't use marijuana =
in our=20
home (he literally <BR>>honored the<BR>>lifelong family rule =
against the=20
use of drugs in our home) I was indeed <BR>>aware<BR>>that he =
smoked=20
marijuana. I could tell because when he smoked a joint he=20
<BR>>was<BR>>both hungry and happy - a combination of feelings =
that he=20
rarely <BR>>experienced<BR>>otherwise. Did law enforcement =
know=20
that he was using marijuana, yes, they<BR>>certainly did. =
When he=20
experimented with what I considered to be a "hard =
<BR>>drug"<BR>>did I=20
learn about it and turn him in? Yes, I did. Does this make =
me a=20
<BR>>stool<BR>>pigeon or an uncaring parent? I don't know, =
I did=20
what I thought I had to <BR>>do<BR>>as a responsible parent and=20
responsible citizen.<BR>><BR>>I would only add, Regional =
Enquirer, when=20
Ben was removed from life <BR>>support,<BR>>he was in fact, =
marijuana=20
free.<BR>><BR>>Rose Huskey<BR>>Once you lose integrity =
everything=20
else is=20
=
easy.<BR><BR>____________________________________________________________=
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