[Vision2020] Bush is a Terrorist according to dictionary (Donovan Arnold)

Jim Meyer m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com
Wed Jun 23 19:51:21 PDT 2004


Now look up the definition of fascist, that is if you want something really
amusing.


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>    3. RE: ?:  ID State Legislators & College Degrees (Tom Hansen)
>    4. Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944) (Tom Hansen)
>    5. Response to Pat Kraut on Muslim Males (Nick Gier)
>    6. Re: Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944) (Scott Dredge)
>    7. Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944) (Tom Hansen)
>    8. Multiple Re-postings (Tom Hansen)
>    9. Re: Multiple Re-postings (JSullivan)
>   10. RE: Multiple Re-postings (Saundra Lund)
>   11. RE: Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944) (LuJane Nisse publisher)
>   12. Re: Multiple Re-postings (Tbertruss at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:28:41 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] Bush is a Terrorist according to dictionary
>
> According to Encarta World English Dictionary George W. Bush is a
Terrorist:
>
> terrorist n
>
> "somebody who uses violence or the threat of violence, especially bombing,
> kidnapping, and assassination, to intimidate, often for political
purposes"
>
> terrorism n
>
> "violence or the threat of violence, especially bombing, kidnapping, and
> assassination, carried out for political purposes"
>
> Thesaurus
>
> Terrorism
>
> Violence (Noun) intimidation, terror campaign, bombing
>
> If you support Bush, you support terrorism, according to the dictionary.
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:11:35 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] ?:  ID State Legislators & College Degrees
>
> Visionaries:
>
> While sitting around pondering the state of higher education in Idaho and
> wondering why things happen (i.e., the English department faculty not
having
> office phones while a "virtual" charter school gets a $1.6 million
taxpayer
> bailout), we pondered some questions I'm wondering if any of you know the
> answers to since we're such a diverse and knowledgeable group with a knack
for
> finding information  :-)
>
> Does anyone know how I could find out how many of the Idaho state
legislators
> actually have college degrees?
>
> And, does anyone know how I could find out how this compares to other
states or
> the national average for legislators at the state level?
>
> TIA,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> -Edmund Burke
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Reply-To: <thansen at moscow.com>
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
> Cc: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ?:  ID State Legislators & College Degrees
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:39:35 -0700
>
> Saundra -
>
> You realize, of course, that you are opening the flood gates for Christ
> Church members to debate the sins of elected officials educated by
> government schools.
>
> I will see if educaiton levels of our elected officials are mentioned in
the
> Idaho Blue Book.
>
> Tom
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin at moscow.com]On
> > Behalf Of Saundra Lund
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:12 PM
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] ?: ID State Legislators & College Degrees
> >
> >
> > Visionaries:
> >
> > While sitting around pondering the state of higher education in Idaho
and
> > wondering why things happen (i.e., the English department faculty
> > not having
> > office phones while a "virtual" charter school gets a $1.6
> > million taxpayer
> > bailout), we pondered some questions I'm wondering if any of you know
the
> > answers to since we're such a diverse and knowledgeable group
> > with a knack for
> > finding information  :-)
> >
> > Does anyone know how I could find out how many of the Idaho state
> > legislators
> > actually have college degrees?
> >
> > And, does anyone know how I could find out how this compares to
> > other states or
> > the national average for legislators at the state level?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Saundra Lund
> > Moscow, ID
> >
> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to
do
> > nothing.
> > -Edmund Burke
> >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________
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> >
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> Message: 4
> Reply-To: <thansen at moscow.com>
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Idaho Vandals" <vandal at uidaho.edu>, "Vision2020"
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:57:47 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
>
> Greetings Visionaires and Vandals -
>
> I just finished posting an aerial photograph of Moscow (circa 1944) at:
>
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Moscow_1944.jpg
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Tom Hansen
> UI '96
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"
> -Robin Williams
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:17:19 -0700
> From: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Response to Pat Kraut on Muslim Males
>
> Greetings:
>
> Although I think that Joan's response to Pat Kraut's attack on Muslim men
> was brilliant, I would like to try a different tactic and address the
> reasons why they hate us so much.
>
> Back in the early 50s as Dulles brothers started their virulent
> anti-Communist campaign (including stiffing China and the North Vietnamese
> at the 1954 Geneva Accords), the CIA was instructed to undermine the
> democratic Iranian government of Mohammed Mossadegh, who was labeled a
> Communist, even though he was just a progressive democrat.
>
> We brought back Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, even though it was well know
> that he neither had the desire nor credentials to run a country.  We
helped
> him build up his military and a vicious secret police and we made sure
that
> Iran's oil kept flowing into our gas tanks.  These were the conditions
that
> radicalized an entire generation of young Muslims, inspired by leaders
such
> as Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who led, from his Paris apartment, a
> massive nonviolent rebellion against the Shah.
>
> The radical Islamic movement was intensified and internationalized by
> Reagan's support for these very elements in Afghanistan in the 1980s
rather
> the more moderate Northern Alliance, whom we finally allied with in the
> recent overthrow of the Taliban.
>
> So it is we who stirred up the hornets in the Middle East and Bush, Jr.
has
> just stuck his finger in the hive once again.  One could argue that young
> Muslim men have very good reason to fight us, but what is the excuse of
the
> actions of the white males that Joan mentioned in her response?  I guess
it
> is simply because they could.  Lo, the power of top males.  It must feel
> soooo good.
>
> Nick Gier
>
>
>
> "Modern physics has taught us that the nature of any system cannot be
> discovered by dividing it into its component parts and studying each part
> by itself. . . .We must keep our attention fixed on the whole and on the
> interconnection between the parts. The same is true of our intellectual
> life. It is impossible to make a clear cut between science, religion, and
> art. The whole is never equal simply to the sum of its various parts."
> --Max Planck
>
> Nicholas F. Gier
> Professor Emeritus, Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho
> 1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID 83843
> http://users.moscow.com/ngier/home/index.htm
> 208-883-3360/882-9212/FAX 885-8950
> President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO
> www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/ift/index.htm
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
> To: thansen at moscow.com, Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>
> Thanks Tom.  I like the photo.  However, I only think
> you need to post the link once.  I've seen this post
> about 10 times now (5 times on the vandal list server
> and 5 times also on v2020).
>
> -Scott
>
> --- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> > Greetings Visionaires and Vandals -
> >
> > I just finished posting an aerial photograph of
> > Moscow (circa 1944) at:
> >
> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Moscow_1944.jpg
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > UI '96
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"
> > -Robin Williams
> >
> >
> _____________________________________________________
> >  List services made available by First Step
> > Internet,
> >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> >
> >                http://www.fsr.net
> >
> >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
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> Message: 7
> Reply-To: <thansen at moscow.com>
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Idaho Vandals" <vandal at uidaho.edu>, "Vision2020"
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:49:22 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
>
> Greetings Visionaires and Vandals -
>
> I just finished posting an aerial photograph of Moscow (circa 1944) at:
>
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Moscow_1944.jpg
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Tom Hansen
> UI '96
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"
> -Robin Williams
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Reply-To: <thansen at moscow.com>
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:07:41 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
>
> Visionaires -
>
> My apologies for the multiple re-postings concerning the Moscow photo.
>
> I posted the link twice.  A couple days after posting it the first time, I
> realized that the listserve had not processed my posting. I then re-posted
> it.  I checked with the tech support people at First Step Internet.  For
the
> past few months they have been over-burdened with "chasing down" viruses
> (among other maintenance responsibilities).  I believe that the repostings
> (10+ incidents) are analogous to a scratch on a record.
>
> Once again, sorry about the inconvenience.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Dredge [mailto:sdredge at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:55 PM
> > To: thansen at moscow.com; Vision2020
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
> >
> >
> > Thanks Tom.  I like the photo.  However, I only think
> > you need to post the link once.  I've seen this post
> > about 10 times now (5 times on the vandal list server
> > and 5 times also on v2020).
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > --- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> > > Greetings Visionaires and Vandals -
> > >
> > > I just finished posting an aerial photograph of
> > > Moscow (circa 1944) at:
> > >
> > > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Moscow_1944.jpg
> > >
> > > Enjoy,
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > UI '96
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > > Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"
> > > -Robin Williams
> > >
> > >
> > _____________________________________________________
> > >  List services made available by First Step
> > > Internet,
> > >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> > >
> > >                http://www.fsr.net
> > >
> > >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >
> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "JSullivan" <jsullivan at moscow.com>
> To: <thansen at moscow.com>, "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:37:43 -0700
>
> I am just now getting mail I should have received days ago from ebay.
>
> Janesta
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:07 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
>
>
> > Visionaires -
> >
> > My apologies for the multiple re-postings concerning the Moscow photo.
> >
> > I posted the link twice.  A couple days after posting it the first time,
I
> > realized that the listserve had not processed my posting. I then
re-posted
> > it.  I checked with the tech support people at First Step Internet.  For
> the
> > past few months they have been over-burdened with "chasing down" viruses
> > (among other maintenance responsibilities).  I believe that the
repostings
> > (10+ incidents) are analogous to a scratch on a record.
> >
> > Once again, sorry about the inconvenience.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Dredge [mailto:sdredge at yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:55 PM
> > > To: thansen at moscow.com; Vision2020
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Tom.  I like the photo.  However, I only think
> > > you need to post the link once.  I've seen this post
> > > about 10 times now (5 times on the vandal list server
> > > and 5 times also on v2020).
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > --- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> > > > Greetings Visionaires and Vandals -
> > > >
> > > > I just finished posting an aerial photograph of
> > > > Moscow (circa 1944) at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Moscow_1944.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy,
> > > >
> > > > Tom Hansen
> > > > UI '96
> > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > > >
> > > > Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"
> > > > -Robin Williams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > _____________________________________________________
> > > >  List services made available by First Step
> > > > Internet,
> > > >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> > > >
> > > >                http://www.fsr.net
> > > >
> > > >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >
> > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________
> >  List services made available by First Step Internet,
> >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> >                http://www.fsr.net
> >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
> > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
> To: "'JSullivan'" <jsullivan at moscow.com>, <thansen at moscow.com>,
>    "'Scott Dredge'" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'Vision2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:52:15 -0700
>
> Whew!  I'm glad it's not just me -- I'm glad to have Mr. Hansen's & Ms.
> Sullivan's company  :-)
>
> I actually sent the post I did yesterday (wondering about ID legislators &
> college degrees) around noon but it didn't "show up" until about 5 hours
later.
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> -Edmund Burke
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin at moscow.com] On
Behalf
> Of JSullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:38 AM
> To: thansen at moscow.com; Scott Dredge
> Cc: Vision2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
>
> I am just now getting mail I should have received days ago from ebay.
>
> Janesta
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:07 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
>
>
> > Visionaires -
> >
> > My apologies for the multiple re-postings concerning the Moscow photo.
> >
> > I posted the link twice.  A couple days after posting it the first time,
I
> > realized that the listserve had not processed my posting. I then
re-posted
> > it.  I checked with the tech support people at First Step Internet.  For
> the
> > past few months they have been over-burdened with "chasing down" viruses
> > (among other maintenance responsibilities).  I believe that the
repostings
> > (10+ incidents) are analogous to a scratch on a record.
> >
> > Once again, sorry about the inconvenience.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "LuJane Nisse publisher" <lujane at lataheagle.com>
> To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:17:25 -0700
>
> I'm getting a lot of multiple email not only from this list but just
regular
> email. I am wondering if there is a problem at First Step.
> LJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin at moscow.com]On
> Behalf Of Scott Dredge
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:55 PM
> To: thansen at moscow.com; Vision2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow, Idaho (circa 1944)
>
>
> Thanks Tom.  I like the photo.  However, I only think
> you need to post the link once.  I've seen this post
> about 10 times now (5 times on the vandal list server
> and 5 times also on v2020).
>
> -Scott
>
> --- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> > Greetings Visionaires and Vandals -
> >
> > I just finished posting an aerial photograph of
> > Moscow (circa 1944) at:
> >
> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Moscow_1944.jpg
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > UI '96
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"
> > -Robin Williams
> >
> >
> _____________________________________________________
> >  List services made available by First Step
> > Internet,
> >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> >
> >                http://www.fsr.net
> >
> >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
> >
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
>
> _____________________________________________________
>  List services made available by First Step Internet,
>  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>                http://www.fsr.net
>           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: Tbertruss at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:19:14 EDT
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Multiple Re-postings
> To: sslund at adelphia.net, jsullivan at moscow.com, thansen at moscow.com,
>    sdredge at yahoo.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
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> June 19th that NEVER posted to the list serve, that I can discover, not in
my
> inbox or in the V2020 archives.  I resent that same mail two days later,
and it
> did post.  I waited to send it again knowing that on occasion V2020 can
take a
> day or two for mail to post, though of course this means something is
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> Ted Moffett
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