[Vision2020] Evidence of Bush Family Values

Tbertruss at aol.com Tbertruss at aol.com
Mon Jul 26 22:16:53 PDT 2004


LuJane et. al.

People do examine the press in detail with scholarly precision.  I recommend "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky for some profound theories backed by extensive documentation regarding aspects of how the press and media functions.  The theories in this book shed some light, when applied to the Bush administration, on the "pass" W. Bush gets in the media over aspects of his life that if associated with Clinton would have been headlines over and over.

Ted Moffett


In a message dated 7/25/2004 2:17:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "LuJane Nisse publisher" <lujane at lataheagle.com> writes:

>ahhh, who can explain the press?
>LJ Nisse
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tbertruss at aol.com [mailto:Tbertruss at aol.com]
>Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:31 PM
>To: "LuJane Nisse publisher"; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Evidence of Bush Family Values
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>LuJane et. al.
>
>I am not trying to judge Bush or Clinton personally regarding their
>children's behavior.  It is true that Chelsea might be a great person
>despite Clinton, and Bush's daughters might be hell raisers despite Bush's
>best attempts at being a good father.
>
>To be brief, I think it obvious that if Chelsea had been a law breaker like
>the Bush daughters, Clinton would have been blamed in the media by numerous
>sources for being a failure as a father, for Chelsea reflecting his moral
>failures.  Why does Bush get a pass over his daughter's bad conduct, when he
>has made family values and Christian moral values such a centerpiece of his
>image?
>
>Ted Moffett
>
>
>In a message dated 7/24/2004 5:28:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "LuJane Nisse
>publisher" <lujane at lataheagle.com> writes:
>
>>nothing is absolute. Of course children from a loving, honest home have a
>>better chance of growing up loving and honest but it isn't absolutely and
>to
>>point at a child and say "he/she acts this way because he/she must have
>>good/bad parents," is not an accurate statement in my opinion. As I would
>>not judge parenting ability by the way a child acts, I would not judge a
>>child to be bad if his parents are "bad."
>>You can get into a huge, long debate on these things, but in this situation
>>(bush/clinton)... my statement was meant to say, "do not judge the parent
>by
>>the child."
>>(actually we shouldn't judge at all.)
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Tbertruss at aol.com [mailto:Tbertruss at aol.com]
>>  Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:10 PM
>>  To: lujane at lataheagle.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Evidence of Bush Family Values
>>
>>
>>
>>  Lujane:
>>
>>  Do you mean to suggest that parents should in no way be considered
>>reflected in their children?  Do you really think that kids just make up
>>their own minds and grow up however they are going to, and the good or bad
>>example or influence parents might have on their children should not be
>>considered when children exhibit problems?
>>
>>  This appears to be your position, an attitude I doubt most people or most
>>social scientists or psychologists would find very tenable.
>>
>>  So the abuse of a child raised in a home with hatred really is not a
>>factor if the child exhibits problems?  The parents are off the hook?  And
>>W. Bush also?
>>
>>  Wow, this is great, parents everywhere can heave a sigh of relief!  Their
>>behavior has nothing to do with how their children turn out.  Kids just
>make
>>up their own minds about how they are going to live.  And it's just an
>>amazing coincidence that 90%+ children in the USA decide to become
>>Christians, and 90%+ in Iran decide to become Muslims, given that they are
>>free willed beings who are not controlled by their families.
>>
>>  Right!
>>
>>  Ted Moffett
>>
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