[Vision2020] Facinating comments towards and from Pat, etc, etc.

[pduffau at adelphia.net]

Paul, 

First, welcome to Vision2020.  It is indeed a very active list.  The list, however, is often very rough and intolerance runs very high.  If you have a thick skin, I commend it to you as many of the posters are very knowledgeable.  Many of them are very different in their, er, "forthfulness and frankness" when approached individually versus the public persona they project.

If you have a contrary opinion, you may expect opposition, some of it insulting.  You may also expect that some will seriously consider your input.  

Take care.

Paul Duffau
> 
> From: Paul <nath5573 at uidaho.edu>
> Date: 2004/07/23 Fri AM 11:36:38 EDT
> To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Facinating comments towards and from Pat, etc, etc.
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I've been lurking in this list for a week or so now, just watching the
> traffic.
> I was hoping that it would be a place for reasonably intelligent
> discussion, as befitting a community list.
> I like Moscow, you see. :)
> 
> Now, I've been online since 1998, and it's been truly amazing, the level
> of discourtesy extended to Pat Kraut over his? her?
> statement, to wit:
> 
> One person gave out grave doubts as to Pat's beliefs;
> One person called Pat a reptile;
> A set of people of people suggested that what Pat really meant was along
> the lines of sending the children to Iraq as targets;
> One person likened Pat to Scrooge;
> One person called Pat a hypocrite.
> 
> Really, people. Most high-schooler/middle schooler Star Wars fans are
> far more pleasant and friendly, even when debating such
> earth shaking matters such as the real size of a Star Destroyer. (You
> wouldn't even believe the zealousness SW fans can get to....)
> While I could come up with 4 or 5 examples and counter examples about
> social nets and their value, you could at least be civil
> and debate the idea, not Pat.
> 
> I suspect some of you owe Pat an apology.
> 
> Unless, of course, this list is especially intended for flaming. In
> which case, I will sadly leave, knowing that Moscow is not quite as good
> of a town
> I thought it was.
> 
> As for my comment on the original topic: so long as good controls are
> kept to avoid abuses of a quality social program, it should stay, if
> possible.
> 
> -paul
> 
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