[Vision2020] Pat Kraut lives in Subsidized Housing.

[Pat Kraut]

Where did I say get ride of ALL the programs for the poor? I said I would
not be upset to see this one go. Do you feel better telling everyone about
my living space? I already said I wasn't in the upper levels of income. Do
you want to see the bank statements, my tax notices?
I think I am due an apology for this post.
Pat
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
To: <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:38 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Pat Kraut lives in Subsidized Housing.


> Pat is such a hypocrite for wanting to get rid of programs for the poor,
she
> is living in subsidized housing you know. So if she REALLY felt that way
she
> would give up living in her apartment and move into a non-subsidized
> apartment and pay back the taxpayer for all they gave her. But she won't
> because she is a hypocritical.
>
> Donovan J Arnold.
>
>
> >From: "Joan Opyr" <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>
> >To: "Vision2020 Moscow" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Leaving a few children behind
> >Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:22:43 -0700
> >
> >Pat writes:
> >
> > >Of all the silly answers...I am poor, twit! The only bitterness I feel
is
> >that of a regular tax payer who is >having their hardearned pay sucked
into
> >programs for the 'poor' with no end in sight. I can assure you >there are
> >many more programs to 'help' the poor (that do not much more than keep
them
> >poor) than >there is for the middle class barely able to make ends meet
for
> >helping those poor souls.  As to my >faith, your comments are the ones of
> >someone who knows nothing about it. I use the word ingrate >because any
> >time these migrant workers protest anything they wave the Mexican flag in
> >our faces. >Well, go back to Mexico if its so great! Try reading "The
Enemy
> >Within" by Donald Savage. You just >might learn something to make you
think
> >more deeply about this subject. It is as always multi-faceted.
> >
> >
> >You're poor, are you?  Unemployed, living in your car, no health
insurance,
> >and well past the two-year lifetime limit on Idaho's notoriously
> >parsimonious family assistance program?  Or was that you I saw on TV with
> >Sally Struthers, shoeless in the slums of El Salvador?  If you have a car
> >that runs, food to eat, a job to go to, health benefits, and, dare I say
> >it, fifteen bucks a month to blow on a First Step Internet account, then
> >you are not especially well acquainted with skid row.  Hell, if you have
> >only one or two of these things, you're better off than 99% of the
world's
> >population.
> >
> >Perhaps your life has been hard.  Perhaps it's been tight and squeezed
and
> >not all that you'd hoped it would be.  If so, then you have my sympathy,
> >but it's a limited sympathy.  It's bounded by the knowledge that your
> >experience has failed to make you compassionate; instead, you're
> >hard-hearted, bitter, bigoted and unpleasant.  A lot of us grew up poor.
> >We lived on generic brand macaroni and cheese, we shopped for school
> >clothes at the Goodwill, and there were months when we couldn't afford to
> >pay both the electric bill and buy gas for the car, so my mother walked
the
> >miles to work.  But there were people worse off than we were back then,
and
> >there are people far worse off now.  What I want is for those people to
be
> >better off.  I want their kids to have access to education and not be
> >forever trapped in grinding, soul-destroying, endless poverty.  I want
them
> >to have free school breakfast and free school lunch, a decent place to
> >live, a stable home life, and access to public education.  When they get
to
> >college, I want them to have Pell grants and guaranteed student loans.
> >
> >I'll go a step further -- I want the poor today to have access to
programs
> >and assistance that weren't available to me when I was growing up.  I
want
> >there to be more programs to lift people out of poverty, not fewer.  I
want
> >to erase the damage done during the Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush II
eras
> >and pick up the threads of the Great Society.  No one in this rich
country
> >should be going to bed hungry; no one should be without housing or health
> >care.  Faith, hope, and charity abideth, and the greatest of these is
> >charity.
> >
> >A few months ago, Pat, you told the members of this list that you had
> >benefited from George W. Bush's tax cuts.  Bully for you.  You can be
> >grateful for that, and also for the fact that you make enough money that
> >the federal government has deemed that some small amount can be "sucked"
> >from your tight, screaming, Krusty Krab wallet and used to provide paltry
> >assistance to those who can only dream of being in your tax bracket.
And,
> >if you can't be grateful, then you might remind yourself that there's
> >someone in Rwanda or Sudan or Bangladesh who'd be happy to take your
place.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Squidward (AKA Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment)
> >
> >PS: If I had Michael Savage's "Enemy Within," I'd increase my intake of
> >fiber.  Strong black coffee, a copy of People magazine, and a little
alone
> >time with Mr. Commode . . . that's what Michael Savage needs. Get more
from
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