[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office

bubba jones bubbajones9763@hotmail.com
Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:20:47 +0000


Tom,
I agree. The PD does need to be agressive in serving his/her clients.  If 
he/she is pleading cases just because it gets it from the in to the out box 
then there's a problem.  Exhaust all means, by all means.
B.



>From: thansen@moscow.com
>To: "bubba jones" <bubbajones9763@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:47:39 GMT
>
>If the defendant did commit a crime and the state can prove it in court,
>a "deal" would be in the best ineterest of the defendant.
>
>Winning is the goal.  However, you cannot (and should not) guage a PD's
>performance by his/her "batting average".  But, the PD's performance should 
>be
>guaged by aggressively serving the best ineterest of his/her client.  If
>appealing a case to the next higher court assists in the defendan't cause, 
>and
>the PD does not appeal, then the PD is NOT serving is the best ineterest of
>his/her client.  A PD MUST exhaust all means available to him/her in 
>pursuit
>of "winning" for the client.
>
>It is that simple.
>
>Tom
>
>
> > Tom,
> > If the defendant knows he did it, and the state can prove he did it how 
>does
> > it best serve the defendant to go to trial, knowing that if he does, he 
>will
> > get a longer prison sentence?  If the defendant knows he did it, isn't 
>it in
> > his best interest to make a deal before the case goes to trial?
> >
> > If the PD is doing nothing more than cleaning out his/her inbox by 
>dealing,
> > rather than going to trial, then, yes, there would be a problem.  If,
> > however, the PD is doing what's in the best interest of his/her client 
>by
> > dealing then, the PD is doing his/her job.
> >
> > If you make winning, the standard by which PDs are judged, then I would
> > venture to guess that there wouldn't be a PD in the nation who would get 
>a
> > passing grade.
> >
> > B. Jones
> >
> >
> > >From: thansen@moscow.com
> > >To: "bubba jones" <bubbajones9763@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004
> > >17:19:34 GMT
> > >
> > >Earth shattering news ! !
> > >
> > >Our court system does not always separate justice from injustice.  In 
>many
> > >cases, it separates winners from losers.  It is always best for an 
>attorney
> > >to "win" for his/her client.  With that said, a Public (or in the
> > >Dougster's
> > >lingo "Government") Defender should always strive to win, not settle 
>for
> > >less
> > >simply because it is expedient and cleans out his/her In Box.
> > >
> > >An excellent movie that exemplifies what is stated above is "And 
>Justice
> > >for
> > >All" with Al Pacino.
> > >
> > >Tom Hansen
> > >
> > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you will, but I don't think it's 
>the
> > >job
> > > > of the public defender to help set guilty people free.  Isn't it 
>rather
> > >his
> > > > job to make sure the state has a case, can prove its case and has 
>not
> > > > violated any of the defendant's rights?  What people don't seem to
> > >remember
> > > > is that the person accused of the crime knows whether he/she did it 
>or
> > >not.
> > > > If the accused actually did the crime Isn't it in his best interest 
>to
> > >try
> > > > and get a lesser sentence by making a deal with the prosecutor?
> > > >
> > > > It doesn't seem right to judge the PD based upon how many cases he
> > >brings to
> > > > trial.  He may do better by his client by not going to trial.
> > > >
> > > > IMHO B. Jones
> > > >
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