[Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?

Tim Lohrmann timlohr@yahoo.com
Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:09:00 -0800 (PST)


--0-742295378-1074888540=:59263
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Carl, 
    I didn't notice anyone on here defending the GOP'ers lately.
    Maybe I missed it. Did you?      
      TL

Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com> wrote:
How long has Bill Clinton been out of office? There was a report on NPR 
this morning about a conservative gathering in DC where they're selling 
unflattering Bill Clinton toys. The Republican right condemns those who 
criticize George W. Bush as "Bush haters", and as being unpatriotic, but 
it's OK for them to continue to bash Clinton? Double standard, anyone? 



Carl Westberg Jr.


>From: Tim Lohrmann 
>To: Aldoussoma@aol.com
>CC: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?
>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:15:59 -0800 (PST)
>
>Ted,
> If a few posts pointing out how ridiculously blind it is for any 
>liberal to defend Bill Clinton means I'm "OBSessed"--then what are the 
>folks who post daily--sometimes hourly-- about Wilson/CC etc. etc. ad 
>nauseum?
> " POSessed?"
> TL
>
>Aldoussoma@aol.com wrote:
>
>Sunil:
>
>I avoided going there, but it did occur to me that Tim's previous rantings 
>on this subject seemed a bit obsessive, an obsession I had had quite enough 
>of during Clinton's impeachment. But this is what makes the list more 
>valuable, perhaps, that no one can dictate what is newsworthy or not. Even 
>with all its faults, often V2020 and its members offer a more newsworthy 
>view of certain events than the so called "news" we get in the sound bites 
>offered in the monetarily driven "news" media.
>
>One of our City Council members commented in the Daily News that V2020 was 
>not a good source of factual info. Actually, I think there are so many 
>lurkers waiting to pounce on BS on the list that the false stories get 
>corrected rather often, and much valuable info is offered with links to 
>sources that are reliable.
>
>I think V2020 does quite well as an open unmoderated list serve, though the 
>potential is there for it to self destruct if a large number of people went 
>off the deep end "spamming" the list.
>
>OK, maybe "Naked At Dennys" is a trivial post. Mea culpa.
>
>Ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do you Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!

_________________________________________________________________
There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. 
http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1








---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
--0-742295378-1074888540=:59263
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

<DIV>Carl, </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I didn't notice anyone on here defending the GOP'ers lately.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe I missed it. Did you?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001" target=_blank><IMG alt=Ummm src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_5.gif" border=0></A>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TL<BR><BR><B><I>Carl Westberg &lt;carlwestberg846@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">How long has Bill Clinton been out of office? There was a report on NPR <BR>this morning about a conservative gathering in DC where they're selling <BR>unflattering Bill Clinton toys. The Republican right condemns those who <BR>criticize George W. Bush as "Bush haters", and as being unpatriotic, but <BR>it's OK for them to continue to bash Clinton? Double standard, anyone? <BR><BR><BR><BR>Carl Westberg Jr.<BR><BR><BR>&gt;From: Tim Lohrmann <TIMLOHR@YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt;To: Aldoussoma@aol.com<BR>&gt;CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?<BR>&gt;Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:15:59 -0800 (PST)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Ted,<BR>&gt; If a few posts pointing out how ridiculously blind it is for any <BR>&gt;liberal to defend Bill Clinton means I'm "OBSessed"--then what are the <BR>&gt;folks who post daily--sometimes hourly-- about Wilson/CC etc. etc. ad
 <BR>&gt;nauseum?<BR>&gt; " POSessed?"<BR>&gt; TL<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Aldoussoma@aol.com wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Sunil:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I avoided going there, but it did occur to me that Tim's previous rantings <BR>&gt;on this subject seemed a bit obsessive, an obsession I had had quite enough <BR>&gt;of during Clinton's impeachment. But this is what makes the list more <BR>&gt;valuable, perhaps, that no one can dictate what is newsworthy or not. Even <BR>&gt;with all its faults, often V2020 and its members offer a more newsworthy <BR>&gt;view of certain events than the so called "news" we get in the sound bites <BR>&gt;offered in the monetarily driven "news" media.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;One of our City Council members commented in the Daily News that V2020 was <BR>&gt;not a good source of factual info. Actually, I think there are so many <BR>&gt;lurkers waiting to pounce on BS on the list that the false stories get <BR>&gt;corrected rather often, and much valuable info is offered with lin!
 ks to
 <BR>&gt;sources that are reliable.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I think V2020 does quite well as an open unmoderated list serve, though the <BR>&gt;potential is there for it to self destruct if a large number of people went <BR>&gt;off the deep end "spamming" the list.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;OK, maybe "Naked At Dennys" is a trivial post. Mea culpa.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Ted<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;---------------------------------<BR>&gt;Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt;Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!<BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. <BR>http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&amp;page=hotmail/es2&amp;ST=1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><A href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb023" target=_blank><IMG src="http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb023" border=0></A></BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr SIZE=1>
Do you Yahoo!?<br>
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=21608/*http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/"><b>Try it!</b></a>
--0-742295378-1074888540=:59263--