[Vision2020] One ethical question for Mr. Fox

[Carl Westberg]

Regarding arrogance as an unethical thingy, after Googling the ponderings of 
the world's great philosophers, and factoring in E equals MC2, i before e 
except after c, the pythagorean theorem, quantum physics, and putting them 
all in a medium ungreased baking pan at 350 degrees for 45 minutes, serving 
immediately with fava beans and several bottles of a delightfully quirky, 
piquant yet sassy cabernet sauvignon, one reaches the irrefutable conclusion 
that arrogant people, Ms. Wilmington, are....poopheads.  And quite possibly 
scoundrels.                                                                  
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                  Carl Westberg Jr.


>From: Edna Wilmington <edwilming@yahoo.com>
>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] One ethical question for Mr. Fox
>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:56:12 -0800 (PST)
>
>Forum Members,
>
>First, I want to sincerely thank Mr. Fox for his kind
>and reasonable reply to my questions.  I agree with
>much of what he wrote, and I'm willing, for the sake
>of discussion, to concede some of the points where I
>would tend to disagree.
>
>Second, I want to reiterate my desire to have a fair
>and reasonable discussion.  If at any point, my
>behaviour runs afoul of that desire, I request that
>the members of the forum call me to account.
>
>After reviewing my original list of questions, I think
>Mr. Fox's reply includes implied answers to some but
>not all of them.  In the interest of simplicity and
>brevity, I'm willing to set aside my original list of
>questions. Perhaps it might be worthwhile to return to
>them later.  In the meantime, I will comply fully with
>Mr. Fox's ground rules and submit one question based
>on a message of his which I will cite below. Also, if
>Mr. Fox wishes to contest the fairness of how the
>debate has been framed, I'm willing to consider
>adjusting it to both of our liking.
>
>Here is Mr. Fox's message, posted to the V2020 Forum
>on December 9, 2003:
>
>< quote >
>
>If the arrogant, insincere, con artistry answers below
>by cult leader Wilson to Nick Gier's questions are a
>sample of what's going to be served up as answers at
>the Town Sermon on Thursday, why would anyone outside
>of a cult member want to attend unless they are
>masochists who wish to be abased, belittled, and
>insulted?
>
>Wayne A. Fox
>
>< end quote >
>
>Assertion #1:
>
>The message above from Mr. Fox implies that he
>believes that arrogance, insincerity, deception (cf.
>"con artistry"), abasement of others, belittlement of
>others, and insulting others are unethical behaviours.
>
>Assertion #2:
>
>Mr. Fox's belief, as stated in Assertion #1, is a
>"knowledge claim."  That is, by implication, Mr. Fox
>claims to know that the list of behaviours is
>unethical.
>
>Proposed concessions (to be made by Mr. Fox for the
>sake of discussion):
>
>Insincerity, deception, abasement of others,
>belittlement of others, and insulting others are
>unethical behaviours.
>
>Question:
>
>How would Mr. Fox prove that arrogance is an unethical
>behaviour?
>
>Edna Wilmington
>
>
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