[Vision2020] Fwd: Fw: Kayak registration
Dan Carscallen
predator75@moscow.com
Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:27:01 -0800
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I don't understand the problem. Why should some users of our natural
resources be required to pay a fee (off road motorized vehicle
registration, motor boats, snowmobiles, etc.) while others do not
(mountain bikes, kayaks, canoes, etc.)? You may think *you* have little
impact, but what about those who may not be quite as adept at
maneuvering a kayak, raft, or canoe who require assistance from a
Sheriff's dept. or search and rescue? Who pays for that? Those who buy
registrations, that's who.
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I'm all for this registration, and I'm also for registration of bicycles
and cross country skis to help alleviate the costs incurred in making
trails for them as well.
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Dan Carscallen
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
On Behalf Of roger hayes
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:45 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Fwd: Fw: Kayak registration
Vision 2020 readers:
I forward the following information because I believe it to be crucial
to non-motorized recreational water users here in Idaho. Further, I
oppose the law as it will add layers of bur to the state and will
accomplish little. Our state legislature is attempting to require
registration and fee payment for non-motorized water craft. It is an
attempt to regulate use and collect a bit of revenue. However, in the
years I have been plying the lakes and rivers of Idaho, believe my
paddle boat has little impact on the water, facilities, and services
offered. Additionally, I see a great number of boats on Coeur d'Alene,
Pend Oreille, and Priest lakes with out of state registrations. Who pays
for that use? I feel canoes, and kayak enthusiasts should be encouraged
rather than taxed/penalized.
I encourage everyone to contact our representatives and senators and
provide them with a "nay' to this nonsense.
Sincerely,
Roger Hayes
Moscow
Hello, everyone. I thought I sent my own story on this
to you, but apparently it didn't reach you.
I work as a legislative reporter here in the Capitol.
I can't lobby on this bill, but I can tell you when it
comes up before committees so anyone who would like to
can testify.
Here's what I wrote and sent on the AP wires on Jan.
7:
^Small boat owners targeted for new fee<
=B6 COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) _ Every canoe, kayak and
raft over 7 feet long would have to be registered with
the state under a bill being proposed by the Kootenai
County Sheriff's Department.
=B6 The $13 registration fee would apply to any
non-motorized vessel, including out-of-state paddlers.
=B6 "They need to pay their own way," Kootenai County
Sheriff Rocky Watson said about non-motorized boaters.
"They are creating a need for services."
=B6 Watson said a most search-and-rescue efforts are
for whitewater rafters and kayakers who get in
trouble.
=B6 The bill is not sitting well with Idaho's river
outfitters and retailers.
=B6 Fran Tonsmeire, co-owner of Wilderness River
Outfitter in Challis, said her family-owned business
already pays enough user fees.
=B6 "We wouldn't like it. Its just another red tape
kind of thing, and we don't need any more regulations
or paperwork," she said.
=B6 Stan Kolby, co-owner of Idaho River Sports canoe
and kayak shop in Boise, said the proposed law is
misinformed about the sport.
=B6 Many new kayak boats are built under the 7-foot
length limit now, and shorter boats are often used in
the roughest water.
=B6 Also, dedicated paddlers often have multiple boats
for different water conditions. Paying fees for each
boat would have the effect of punishing people who are
taking measures to avoid search and rescue operations
by using the proper equipment.
=B6 And, Kolby says, his business would be forced to
pay more than $1,300 in fees just for the livery boats
he rents to customers.
=B6 "I understand search and rescue has to be funded.
Sometimes thing happen beyond our control. But there
must be other options or alternatives," he said.
=B6 Idaho currently requires motorboat and sailboat
owners to buy an annual registration, which costs $13
for boats up to 12 feet. An additional $2 per foot is
charged for longer boats.
=B6 The Idaho Parks and Recreation Department
estimates that there are more than 100,000
non-motorized boaters in Idaho.
=B6 Corby Christensen, the state's boating law
administrator, thinks it's time for paddlers to pay bureaucracy
their share.
=B6 "It would help enhance the sport and help correct
a lot of overcrowding problems we have," he said. Yet
Christensen said his department isn't taking sides on
the draft, just providing information.
=B6 Kootenai County Waterways Director Kurtis Robinson
sees the $13 charge more as a user fee than a
registration fee.
=B6 "I have two kayaks myself and I don't think it
would bother me," he said. "You have to pay if you are
going to play."
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class=3D437082115-21012004>I don't understand the problem. Why =
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users of our natural resources be required to pay a fee (off road =
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vehicle registration, motor boats, snowmobiles, etc.) while others do =
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(mountain bikes, kayaks, canoes, etc.)? You may think *you* have =
little=20
impact, but what about those who may not be quite as adept at =
maneuvering a=20
kayak, raft, or canoe who require assistance from a Sheriff's dept. or =
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and rescue? Who pays for that? Those who buy registrations, =
that's=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D437082115-21012004>I'm all for this registration, and I'm also =
for=20
registration of bicycles and cross country skis to help alleviate =
the costs=20
incurred in making trails for them as well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>roger hayes<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:45=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Fwd:=20
Fw: Kayak registration<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Vision 2020 =
readers:<BR><BR>I=20
forward the following information because I believe it to be crucial =
to=20
non-motorized recreational water users here in Idaho. Further, I =
oppose the=20
law as it will add layers of bur to the state and will accomplish =
little. Our=20
state legislature is attempting to require registration and fee =
payment for=20
non-motorized water craft. It is an attempt to regulate use and =
collect a bit=20
of revenue. However, in the years I have been plying the lakes and =
rivers of=20
Idaho, believe my paddle boat has little impact on the water, =
facilities, and=20
services offered. Additionally, I see a great number of boats on Coeur =
d'Alene, Pend Oreille, and Priest lakes with out of state =
registrations. Who=20
pays for that use? I feel canoes, and kayak enthusiasts should be =
encouraged=20
rather than taxed/penalized.<BR>I encourage everyone to contact our=20
representatives and senators and provide them with a "nay' to this=20
nonsense.<BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>Roger Hayes<BR>Moscow<BR><BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Hello, everyone. I thought I sent my own story on =
this<BR>to=20
you, but apparently it didn't reach you.<BR><BR>I work as a =
legislative=20
reporter here in the Capitol.<BR>I can't lobby on this bill, but =
I can=20
tell you when it<BR>comes up before committees so anyone who =
would like=20
to<BR>can testify.<BR><BR>Here's what I wrote and sent on the AP =
wires=20
on Jan.<BR>7:<BR><BR><BR><?bigger>^Small boat owners targeted =
for new=20
fee<<?/bigger><BR><BR>=B6 COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) _ Every =
canoe,=20
kayak and<BR>raft over 7 feet long would have to be registered=20
with<BR>the state under a bill being proposed by the =
Kootenai<BR>County=20
Sheriff's Department.<BR>=B6 The $13 registration fee would =
apply to=20
any<BR>non-motorized vessel, including out-of-state =
paddlers.<BR>=B6 "They=20
need to pay their own way," Kootenai County<BR>Sheriff Rocky =
Watson said=20
about non-motorized boaters.<BR>"They are creating a need for=20
services."<BR>=B6 Watson said a most search-and-rescue efforts =
are<BR>for=20
whitewater rafters and kayakers who get in<BR>trouble.<BR>=B6 =
The bill is=20
not sitting well with Idaho's river<BR>outfitters and =
retailers.<BR>=B6=20
Fran Tonsmeire, co-owner of Wilderness River<BR>Outfitter in =
Challis,=20
said her family-owned business<BR>already pays enough user =
fees.<BR>=B6=20
"We wouldn't like it. Its just another red tape<BR>kind of =
thing, and we=20
don't need any more regulations<BR>or paperwork," she =
said.<BR>=B6 Stan=20
Kolby, co-owner of Idaho River Sports canoe<BR>and kayak shop in =
Boise,=20
said the proposed law is<BR>misinformed about the sport.<BR>=B6 =
Many new=20
kayak boats are built under the 7-foot<BR>length limit now, and =
shorter=20
boats are often used in<BR>the roughest water.<BR>=B6 Also, =
dedicated=20
paddlers often have multiple boats<BR>for different water =
conditions.=20
Paying fees for each<BR>boat would have the effect of punishing =
people=20
who are<BR>taking measures to avoid search and rescue =
operations<BR>by=20
using the proper equipment.<BR>=B6 And, Kolby says, his business =
would be=20
forced to<BR>pay more than $1,300 in fees just for the livery=20
boats<BR>he rents to customers.<BR>=B6 "I understand search and =
rescue has=20
to be funded.<BR>Sometimes thing happen beyond our control. But=20
there<BR>must be other options or alternatives," he said.<BR>=B6 =
Idaho=20
currently requires motorboat and sailboat<BR>owners to buy an =
annual=20
registration, which costs $13<BR>for boats up to 12 feet. An =
additional=20
$2 per foot is<BR>charged for longer boats.<BR>=B6 The Idaho =
Parks and=20
Recreation Department<BR>estimates that there are more than=20
100,000<BR>non-motorized boaters in Idaho.<BR>=B6 Corby =
Christensen, the=20
state's boating law<BR>administrator, thinks it's time for =
paddlers to=20
pay bureaucracy<BR>their share.<BR>=B6 "It would help enhance =
the sport=20
and help correct<BR>a lot of overcrowding problems we have," he =
said.=20
Yet<BR>Christensen said his department isn't taking sides =
on<BR>the=20
draft, just providing information.<BR>=B6 Kootenai County =
Waterways=20
Director Kurtis Robinson<BR>sees the $13 charge more as a user =
fee than=20
a<BR>registration fee.<BR>=B6 "I have two kayaks myself and I =
don't think=20
it<BR>would bother me," he said. "You have to pay if you =
are<BR>going to=20
=
play."<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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