[Vision2020] RE: A (Boring) Liberal World

Carl Westberg carlwestberg846@hotmail.com
Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:58:21 -0800


"Sleep is so common and so easy to do that most of us don't think twice 
about it."  Sigh...Joshua is young.  Wait a few decades, Joshua.             
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                             
                              Carl Westberg Jr.


>From: Joshua Nieuwsma <joshuahendrik@yahoo.com>
>To: vision <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: A (Boring) Liberal World
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:37:10 -0800 (PST)
>
>Again, visionaries, not looking to have any debate, so don't expect any 
>response emails to questions (unless sent offlist). Just some comments on 
>this "A Liberal World" string. Seems to me that a world where naked breasts 
>and buttocks are a common sight is a world where sexuality no longer has 
>any mystique. The liberal way removes the beauty of the naked human body, 
>because it makes it common. The liberal way is even worse than the way of 
>the Renaissance, who for all their problems at least elevated the body in 
>beautiful artwork. They saw it as beautiful and special, even if they 
>stared too much at other men's wives on the wall... If Da Vinci had made as 
>many paintings as Thomas Kinkade, no doubt they would be worth far less 
>than they currently are. Mankind naturally values that which is rare, such 
>as the woman of Proverbs (a merchant, a seamstress, a real estate agent, a 
>wife, a mother, and honored highly by her husband- definitely a rarity in 
>this egalitarian culture). Per!
>  haps
>  "less embarassment towards sexuality" should be understood this way: 
>Boring as plain cream pudding. Where's the mystery on one's wedding night 
>with your bride if you've already seen her body in the local swimming pool? 
>The biblical Christian is open about sexuality, because Scripture is. He is 
>not afraid to use sexual terms when appropriate because God does so, and he 
>is certainly not afraid of the God-designed pleasures in the sexual life 
>experienced by a man and his wife. God makes it very clear that marriage is 
>physical union between one man and one woman in covenant with each other 
>and God. But openness about human sexuality is completely different than 
>the current thoughts by Mr. Nick Gier et al, who would rather demean 
>sexuality to the commonness enjoyed by the art of sleeping. Sleep is so 
>common and so easy to do that most of us don't think twice about it. Gier 
>wants the human body to be given precisely the same level of honor. In his 
>world, there would be no arousal!
>   at the
>  sight of a female breast because it would be commonplace and unimportant. 
>However, sexuality should be hidden, veiled, protected, because it is a 
>garden, a masterpiece. There should be sexual tension, there should be 
>desire, there should be a love-lust, there should be in every married man's 
>heart an obsession with his wife's body. There can be none of that in the 
>world that Mr. Gier advocates. In short, the liberal world is a boring 
>place, a place where beauty is just as valued as ugliness, where truth is 
>just as fascinating as falsehood, where the wedding night is no different 
>than a casual coed volleyball game in the nude with Eminem blasting through 
>the nearby dorm windows.
>
>I feel like starting another "Not in our town" campaign. The motto: "Treat 
>Sex like it was the last Da Vinci". The goals: "To teach the value and 
>beauty and mystery and importance of the marriage bed to every person; To 
>protect society from the destructive ideals of those who would attack 
>sexuality and make it so much dirt under their worldview's tires; To guard 
>the beauty of the female body from those who would demean it by prohibiting 
>it from being obscenely displayed in society; To teach every man to be 
>obsessed with his wife's body; To teach every woman to be obscessed with 
>her husband's body; To protect society from diseases by teaching the beauty 
>of the lifelong heterosexual marriage covenant." The Modus Operandi: 
>"Preach the Gospel of repentance and faith and life in Jesus Christ to 
>Moscow, ID." But I won't. Because even though it would be way more 
>"tolerant" than the current schizophrentic "not in our town" campaign, 
>campaigns are not the way God works in human socie!
>  ty. The
>  Gospel is not just another "campaign for life-saving values." So I'll 
>just continue living a Christian life, walking with the God of Abraham, 
>Isaac, and Jacob, and occasionally making comments about the boring and 
>humanly demeaning way of life professed by some on this forum.
>
>cheers,
>
>Joshua Nieuwsma
>-U of I student-
>
>
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