[Vision2020] Leaflets and Silence
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:40:20 -0800
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<P>Let me see, a sense of humor, and if he is to be believed when questioned about the Iran-Contra dealings, no memory and a staff that went unsupervised as they broke the law. Yes, those were the Golden Years indeed, and for the Nicaraguans who died at the hands of the Contras, a joyful time.</P>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "Dan Carscallen" <PREDATOR75@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Leaflets and Silence
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:27:21 -0800
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<DIV></DIV>>Now *THAT* is funny! The joys of a president with a sense of humor.
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<DIV></DIV>>DC
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<DIV></DIV>>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
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<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:11 AM
<DIV></DIV>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
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<DIV></DIV>> > -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>> > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
<DIV></DIV>> > Behalf Of Jack Van Deventer
<DIV></DIV>> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:59 PM
<DIV></DIV>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Leaflets and Silence
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<DIV></DIV>> > Lions and tigers and bears! OH MY!!!
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<DIV></DIV>> > Have a beer, Rose, and enjoy a good book.
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<DIV></DIV>> > Jack
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<DIV></DIV>> > __________________________________
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<DIV></DIV>> > Jack Van Deventer
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<DIV></DIV>> > jack@moscowUSA.com
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<DIV></DIV>> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>> > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On Behalf Of DonaldH675@aol.com
<DIV></DIV>> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:44 PM
<DIV></DIV>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Leaflets and Silence
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Visionaries:
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Tolerance is a two edged sword. We all enjoy and expect our first
<DIV></DIV>> > amendment rights to be protected. I don't believe that many Vision
<DIV></DIV>> > 2020 readers wish to abridge those rights, even if we are offended (or
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > enraged) by the content of some viewpoints. However, free speech is
<DIV></DIV>> > not the same thing as free speech used to mask a religious agenda that
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > includes the goal of destroying our Constitution. Ironically, that is
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > the ploy employed by theonomists.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Hiding behind their constitutional right of free speech they promote
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > a philosophy that would effectively obliterate freedom of religion,
<DIV></DIV>> > freedom of speech, gut our judicial system, and install a Big Brother
<DIV></DIV>> > in our living rooms. Are theonomists entitled to their pipe dreams?
<DIV></DIV>> > Absolutely -- although under their rule I would not be entitled to
<DIV></DIV>> > mine. Gagged by the fear of appearing intolerant some of us are, in
<DIV></DIV>> > effect, doing the theonomists' work for them.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Many V2020 contributors have suggested that those of us who speak
<DIV></DIV>> > out should mind our own business, live and let live, and not push our
<DIV></DIV>> > world views on others. Although my worldview may be offensive to some
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > and celebrated by others, let me assure you that I don't have a
<DIV></DIV>> > far-reaching plan, much less willing disciples to inflict my worldview
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > on the Palouse or anywhere else. I hope our politically moderate and,
<DIV></DIV>> > particularly, our leaning-toward-the-left contributors/sympathizers
<DIV></DIV>> > will reflect on the following compare and contrast exercise.
<DIV></DIV>> >
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<DIV></DIV>> > In 1999, Doug Wilson and Doug Jones dreamed up the notion of
<DIV></DIV>> > blanketing the University of Idaho with their (yes, sigh, once again
<DIV></DIV>> > self-published) leaflets entitled "Topless and Proud." Wilson
<DIV></DIV>> > describes this behavior as a "prank." In actuality this puerile,
<DIV></DIV>> > adolescent attempt at humor was a deliberate effort to mock and
<DIV></DIV>> > discredit the university and in the process ridicule Moscow's
<DIV></DIV>> > progressive community. (See: Credenda Agenda, Vol. 11, Issue 3,
<DIV></DIV>> > column headed "Rattle and Hum"
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > <HTTP: 11-3meander.php issues www.credenda.org>for Wilson's
<DIV></DIV>> > jocular planning and execution of this "prank." Incidentally, you
<DIV></DIV>> > won't find any explanation of the Beavis and Butthead breast-related
<DIV></DIV>> > humor that seems to be a reoccurring theme in other "skylarking"
<DIV></DIV>> > events and writings.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Doug Wilson endorsed and helped create a lie, dismissed the lie as
<DIV></DIV>> > "high-jinks" and chortled over the resulting embarrassment to the
<DIV></DIV>> > University. But ah, the wheel turns. More recently, I am told, he is
<DIV></DIV>> > actively engaged in courting senior university and state officials in
<DIV></DIV>> > a sniveling bid for their support and sympathy against genuinely
<DIV></DIV>> > trained academics.
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<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > In contrast, we have yet to have a gain a clear explanation from
<DIV></DIV>> > Doug Wilson about the purported slanders, lies, and distortions in
<DIV></DIV>> > the leaflet that accurately quoted Doug Wilson's and Steve Wilkins'
<DIV></DIV>> > historic interpretation on slavery and race relations in the
<DIV></DIV>> > ante-bellum south. Where are the lies? Where is the slander? Indeed,
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > where are the historians?
<DIV></DIV>> >
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<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > If any of you excuse your silence on the local theonomists by
<DIV></DIV>> > indulging in the misguided notion that Doug Wilson and his comrades
<DIV></DIV>> > are just a little local church desiring only to be left alone to
<DIV></DIV>> > worship God in their own covenantal way, its time for you take your
<DIV></DIV>> > mind out of neutral and put it in gear. You are engaged in wishful
<DIV></DIV>> > thinking and liberal lethargy. Christian Reconstruction (aka)
<DIV></DIV>> > theonomy is a national movement. It has specific long range goals.
<DIV></DIV>> > (Some of which you may have enjoyed reading about it in the recent
<DIV></DIV>> > theomonic laws thread.) Doug Wilson's guests at the forthcoming
<DIV></DIV>>opinion conference, George Grant and Steve Wilkins, are enmeshed in the
<DIV></DIV>> > Christian Reconstructionist and the neo-Confederate movements. Note
<DIV></DIV>> > please: Doug denies that he is a card carrying Recon . It is perhaps
<DIV></DIV>> > just a happy accident that his pronouncements and writings mirror the
<DIV></DIV>> > Recon agenda and share religious doctrines. It is also the case that
<DIV></DIV>> > if information chasms can't be leapt, a slippery little rhetorical
<DIV></DIV>> > device known as "the covenantal lie" can bridge any awkward gaps.
<DIV></DIV>> > (For those of us who always thought a lie was a lie, it's not. It's
<DIV></DIV>> > not really a lie if a "Saint" is protecting or extending the
<DIV></DIV>> > covenant.)
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<DIV></DIV>> > Those of you who mistakenly believe that by choosing silence you
<DIV></DIV>> > have staked a claim on the moral high ground, lets be clear, you
<DIV></DIV>> > haven't. For those delicate brothers and sisters among us who won't
<DIV></DIV>> > censure the local theonomists because they wish to retain an
<DIV></DIV>> > unblemished reputations as broadminded liberals, please reconsider
<DIV></DIV>> > your motives. Consider who and what you are really defending.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Rose Huskey
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