[Vision2020] KRFP Human Rights/Racism Audio - Buyers beware

P.S. Stile psstile@hotmail.com
Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:39:19 -0800


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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Visionaries:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Not long ago Bill London posted a link to Radio Free Moscow where one could download audio from a number of different events.&nbsp; He did so again today&nbsp;and I too encourage a listen.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I found the presentation by Stan Thomas from the panel on Southern Slavery As It Wasn’t to be singularly significant – especially in light of the religious nature of much of the discussion on this forum.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">I have taken the liberty to summarize Mr. Thomas’ presentation in my own words,&nbsp;but for your own scrutiny and interpretation, please find&nbsp;a transcript (for which I take full responsibility and own ahead of time any errors in transcription which did try to avoid) of a majority of the actual presentation - it is posted&nbsp;at the end of my comments.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><I>Every religion has its own branch of fundamentalism and the commonality of these fundamentalists is the tendency to worship a book rather than the G(g)od their book points to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Religious experts call this idolatry (book worship), the belief that a book represents ultimate truth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This belief/idolatry naturally leads to an intolerance of other points of view.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Doug Wilson, and others in the fundamentalist wing of Christianity, because of adherence to one of the five main points of fundamentalism (the inerrancy of the bible), defend biblical assertions that are “indefensible”.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It is this type of biblical literalism (Bibliolatry) that creates cultural disharmony.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Fundamentalists of this ilk&nbsp;are part of a fri!
 nge in America because most “informed people” know that sacred scripture is poetic and metaphoric rather than literal or inerrant.&nbsp; They also know that the Bible, rather than being seen as the Word of God, is a human report of many peoples experience of God.&nbsp;&nbsp;Reasonable religious people believe this because they accept&nbsp;our&nbsp;"two hundred year old history" of&nbsp;critical study which has declared it to be so. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></I></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><I><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></I></FONT></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Lest Moscow think that the source of the scuffle in this community is Doug Wilson himself, or Christ Church per se, I think it is important to consider what is being put forward as the underlying “threat,” especially&nbsp;as seen through the eyes of this particular gentleman called to the community as a religious “expert”.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Make no mistake about what the bigger, broader picture being presented&nbsp;is - it is<STRONG> <I>tolerance</I> </STRONG>of all religion that claims no authority and no ultimate truth and it is <I><STRONG>intolerance </STRONG></I>for fundamentalist, evangelical, biblical Christianity (as was described in the presentation&nbsp;by Mr. Thomas) which claims both authority and ultimate truth.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Adherence to inerrancy of the Bible and to a literal interpretation of the Bible is not descriptive of some small fringe element within a broader and more respectable “Christianity,” it is representative of historic and orthodox Christianity which has enjoyed far more history than Mr. Thomas’ two hundred year old history of&nbsp;critical study and those who worship the field of higher criticism (maybe we could call that hicriolatry).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Those who are throwing in with the anti- Doug Wilson/Christ Church/New St. Andrews/Logos/Zumes/Bucers/ crowd need to ponder what it is that constitutes the real rock of offense and what many of the vocal locals are opposing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Mr. Thomas expressed that opposition very well.&nbsp; Here it is:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Stan Thomas:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>“My context for addressing the Doug Wilson phenomena is the field of religion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Like other major areas of concern such as economics and politics, the context of religion is now global as well as local.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Fundamentalism in religion is not restricted to Christianity, but is expressed in all the major faiths to one degree or another.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>There are Hindu and Muslim fundamentalists as well as Christian fundamentalists.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>What they have in common is a tendency to worship a book, the Bible, rather than God, in the Christian faith; the Koran, rather than God, in the Muslim faith.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </S!
 PAN>This is usually called idolatry and is defined in religion as worshipping a physical object as God - for instance the golden calf.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The advantage of this for the worshipper is that a book turned into God is always right by definition.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Therefore the tendency in fundamentalism, wherever you find it, is to claim the whole truth and nothing but the truth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Such certainty often leads to intolerance of other points of view.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Within this field, I do not view Doug Wilson as an isolated case, but simply one of the more strident examples of the misuse of sacred scripture in order to propound a very particular interpretation of the Bible.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It is not my intention to attack Doug personally, rather I wish to disagree with his ideas about the Bible and the way it shou!
 ld be understood.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Within 
the more restricted field of religion called Christianity, he is part of a late 20<SUP>th</SUP> century evangelical revival in the USA that we are now experiencing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Such revivals are by no means rare in this country.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Martin Marty, a well-known church historian, describes six such revivals in US history, of which this one makes the seventh.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Historically, such revivals affect all the established churches as well as spawning new churches, and or splinter groups.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Thus far, historically speaking, most all of the mainstream denominations have survived earlier revivals and have, to some extent, benefited from – by increased enthusiasm among their membership, greater interest in their spiritual heritage and stronger personal involvement.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Within the evangelicals,!
  Doug Wilson is by no means in the middle, but far over to the right… (portion here not included)</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">“He is not a middle-of-the- roader amongst evangelicals, but a representative of the ultra conservative fundamentalist wing of Christianity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>By now most people know that fundamentalism in Christianity is a late 19<SUP>th</SUP> and early 20th Century development in this country.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It is summarized by church historians as, “the five points of fundamentalism.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The five points are: the verbal inerrancy of the Bible, the deity of Jesus, the substitutionary atonement (that is that Jesus died for our sins), the physical resurrection, and the bodily return of Jesus (that is the second coming).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Many in the evangelical movement, as a whole, believe in most of these five po!
 ints, to one degree or another.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Generally, the evangelical movement is stronger in the Southern United States.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Its impact on mainstream denominations has mainly come through their Southern constituency - United Methodists and United Presbyterians to name a couple of examples.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The more conservative wing of the evangelical movement, which I consider the fundamentalist wing, has taken over the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran Church and is threatening to take over the Southern Baptist denomination which is the largest single denomination in America.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The Wilson impact on the Palouse has roots in the Evangelical Free church tradition that came from opposition to state churches in Scandinavia…(portion here not included)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">“Doug seems to have subscribed to an interpretation of the Bible that emphasizes its inerrancy to the point that he finds himself having to defend biblical assertions that are really indefensible – such as the condoning of slavery.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This kind of biblical literalism is a 20<SUP>th</SUP> century heresy created by the early 20<SUP>th</SUP> century fundamentalist movement.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Structurally, such religious fundamentalism is found in most of the major faiths of the world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It happens wherever sacred scripture is worshipped for itself rather than what it points to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It is the sin of worshipping the golden calf rather than what the calf is meant to point to.<SPAN style="mso-s!
 pacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In the Christian context, it’s called bibliolatry, or the idolatry of the Bible.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Most mainstream denominations officially disavow such a literalistic approach to understanding the Bible despite the fact that they often harbor many in their congregations who, either out of ignorance or choice, continue to misuse sacred scripture in a literal way.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">“Biblical literalism is widespread in this country and is a fellow traveler with fundamentalist inerrancy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It is at odds with the critical study of the Bible that now enjoys a two hundred year history.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Critical study is now the basis for bible study in most mainstream denominations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It asks serious questions about authorship, context and language which helps the Bible speak to the present day.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Following decades of exhaustive study of the Bible, informed people tend to view sacred scripture as poetic and metaphoric rather than literal or inerrant. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>The Bible, rather than being seen as the Word of God, is seen as a huma!
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