[Vision2020] Why not shut down the Library too then?
DonovArn@aol.com
DonovArn@aol.com
Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:23:16 EST
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In a message dated 2/24/2004 2:33:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
carlwestberg846@hotmail.com writes:
Donovan, with due respect, I think it's a little simplistic to say that the
current budget problems are only as temporary as the current (acting)
president. And to say the budget will soon be back? Perhaps if you use the
word "soon" in geologic terms. It's going to take years. Gary Michael was
given the unenviable task of performing necessary academic triage on a badly
wounded institution. The damage was not done by him, but by the previous
adminstration. A classic case of being caught between a rock and a hard
place. No matter what he has done, or will do in the future, he willl incur
the wrath of some elements of the university, community and state. As I
said, an unenviable task, and I do not envy him.
Carl,
I would never take away from Hoover and Kempthorne their share of the
responsibility of the damage they have caused during their tenure.
Nor do I think that Mr. Michaels is to blame for the current financial mess
the state, University, or educational system as a whole is in at the moment.
"And to say the budget will soon be back?"
Yes, the budget goes up and down (in constant dollars) from year to year. The
entire UI budget is done every year. The budget will come back when the
economy comes back. The economy will return as soon as Michaels and Bush are out
office. Just like it did in the early 1990s.
My point is that it always costs more to start something from scratch then it
is to have a basic program in place and then build on its' existing
foundation.
If they shrink the UI Printing Press they can build it back up later. If you
destroy it, several years later you will have to rehire staff, retrain staff,
find space, equipment, supplies, and organize the structure and operations.
One the other hand, if you just shrink the program, you can bring it back up
later on.
The Budget shortfall was caused by a reduction in revenue due to a lack of
sales. When the economy recovers, the budget will be back. It doesn't mean that
Education will get all the money they need to run all the programs they want.
But it does mean that there will be enough money to give the different
departments at the University some revenue to run some programs. The economy will
recover, and things will get better.
Consider this fact. The budget for UI was the same in 2000 as it was in 2002.
But 2001 was 15% higher then 2000 and 2002. It goes up and down all the time.
As a rule, Education gets 15% of the state revenues. That changed only this
last year to now, I think, 12.5% of the total state tax revenue.
My trouble with Interim President Michaels is that he has no respect for the
students at UI. Granted, the students should not get whatever they want,
whenever they want it, however, students should be a part of the process and at
least heard. And in cases when the community is divided, or when the issues are a
matter of attracting more students, student will should be a huge factor in
the decision making process.
At the very least, Michaels should not violate the rights of the students by
stealing their Student Recreation Center that they spend about $300 a year to
pay the bond, maintenance, and utilities to keep. Especially when promises
where made to the students in writing regarding the implementation, usage, and
paying for the building over 4 years ago.
Sincerely,
Donovan J Arnold
Former ASUI Senator 2001-03
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<DIV>In a message dated 2/24/2004 2:33:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, carlwest=
berg846@hotmail.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue=20=
2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial>Donovan, with due respect, I think it's a litt=
le simplistic to say that the <BR>current budget problems are only as tempor=
ary as the current (acting) <BR>president. And to say the budget will=20=
soon be back? Perhaps if you use the <BR>word "soon" in geologic terms=
. It's going to take years. Gary Michael was <BR>given the unenv=
iable task of performing necessary academic triage on a badly <BR>wounded in=
stitution. The damage was not done by him, but by the previous <=
BR>adminstration. A classic case of being caught between a rock and a=20=
hard <BR>place. No matter what he has done, or will do in the future,=20=
he willl incur <BR>the wrath of some elements of the university, community a=
nd state. As I <BR>said, an unenviable task, and I do not envy him.&nb=
sp;</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>Carl,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would never take away from Hoover and Kempthorne their =
;share of the responsibility of the damage they have caused during their ten=
ure.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Nor do I think that Mr. Michaels is to blame for the current financial=20=
mess the state, University, or educational system as a whole is in at the mo=
ment. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"And to say the budget will soon be back?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes, the budget goes up and down (in constant dollars) from year to yea=
r. The entire UI budget is done every year. The budget will come back when t=
he economy comes back. The economy will return as soon as Michaels and Bush=20=
are out office. Just like it did in the early 1990s. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My point is that it always costs more to start something from scratch t=
hen it is to have a basic program in place and then build on its' exist=
ing foundation. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If they shrink the UI Printing Press they can build it b=
ack up later. If you destroy it, several years later you will have to rehire=
staff, retrain staff, find space, equipment, supplies, and organize the str=
ucture and operations. One the other hand, if you just shrink the program, y=
ou can bring it back up later on.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The Budget shortfall was caused by a reduction in revenue due to a=
lack of sales. When the economy recovers, the budget will be back. It=20=
doesn't mean that Education will get all the money they need to run all the=20=
programs they want. But it does mean that there will be enough money to give=
the different departments at the University some revenue to run s=
ome programs. The economy will recover, and things will get better.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Consider this fact. The budget for UI was the same in 2000 as it was in=
2002. But 2001 was 15% higher then 2000 and 2002. It goes up and down all t=
he time. As a rule, Education gets 15% of the state revenues. That changed o=
nly this last year to now, I think, 12.5% of the total state tax revenue.</D=
IV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My trouble with Interim President Michaels is that he has no respe=
ct for the students at UI. Granted, the students should not get whatever&nbs=
p;they want, whenever they want it, however, students should be a part of th=
e process and at least heard. And in cases when the community is divided, or=
when the issues are a matter of attracting more students, student will shou=
ld be a huge factor in the decision making process. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At the very least, Michaels should not violate the rights of the studen=
ts by stealing their Student Recreation Center that they spend about $300 a=20=
year to pay the bond, maintenance, and utilities to keep. Especially wh=
en promises where made to the students in writing regarding the implementati=
on, usage, and paying for the building over 4 years ago.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sincerely,</DIV>
<DIV>Donovan J Arnold </DIV>
<DIV>Former ASUI Senator 2001-03</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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