[Vision2020] Marriage and the bible

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Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:25:07 -0800


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Thank you Mr. Hillebrand for this research.

Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson will love this!

Perhaps he will immediately write a new tract defending it.  After all, no
one should ever be ashamed of what's in the bible.

Maybe Wilson can call his new tract:  Marriage:  As it was.

Wayne Fox
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Hillebrand
  To: 'Vision2020'
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:28 AM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Marriage and the bible




  I thought you might find some of the suggestions below, interesting.

  (-;



    As certain politicians work diligently to prevent marriage between

    two people of the same sex, perhaps we should be busy drafting a

    Constitutional Amendment codifying all marriages entirely on

    biblical principles.



    After all, God wouldn't want us to "pick and choose"

    which of the Scriptures we elevate to civil law and which we choose to
ignore.



    Here are some things that we really should consider:





    * Marriage in the United States of America shall consist of a union

    between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5.)



    * Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in

    addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron

    11:21)



    * A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin.

    If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be taken to the gates of the

    city and stoned to death. (Deut 22:13-21)



    * Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden.

    (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30, 2Cor

    6:14)



    * Since marriage is for life, neither the US Constitution nor any

    state law shall permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark

    10:9-12)



    * If a married man dies without children, his brother must marry the

    widow. If the brother refuses to marry the widow, or deliberately

    does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be

    otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-

    10; Deut 25:5-10)



    * In lieu of marriage (if there are no acceptable men to be found),

    a woman shall get her father drunk and lie down with him to keep the

    clan alive. (Gen 19:31-36)



    * When you go to war and you see among the captives a beautiful girl

    you want as your wife, take her home with you.  She must shave her

    head and pare her nails and change her clothing, laying aside that

    which she was wearing when she was captured, then remain in your

    house in mourning for her mother and father for a full month.  After

    which you can marry her.  (Deut

    21:10-13)



    * In a man rapes a girl who is not engaged, and is caught in the

    act, he must pay a fine to the girl's father and marry her; he shall

    never divorce her. (Deut. 22:28-29)





    I hope this helps to clarify the finer details of the Government's

    righteous struggle against the infidels and heathens among us.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Thank you Mr. Hillebrand for this =
research.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Christ Church Cult Master Douglas =
Wilson&nbsp;will love=20
this!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Perhaps he will immediately write a new tract =
defending=20
it.&nbsp; After all, no one should ever be ashamed of what's in the=20
bible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Maybe Wilson can call his new tract:&nbsp; =
<EM>Marriage:=20
&nbsp;As it was.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dchief@synergetics.org =
href=3D"mailto:chief@synergetics.org">Tim=20
  Hillebrand</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision2020'</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 18, =
2004 9:28=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Marriage =
and the=20
  bible</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
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New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I thought you =
might find=20
  some of the suggestions below, interesting. =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">(-;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;As =
certain=20
  politicians work diligently to prevent marriage between=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;two =
people of=20
  the same sex, perhaps we should be busy drafting a=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;Constitutional=20
  Amendment codifying all marriages entirely on =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;biblical=20
  principles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;After all, God=20
  wouldn't want us to "pick and choose"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;which of the=20
  Scriptures we elevate to civil law and which we choose to=20
  ignore.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;Here =
are some=20
  things that we really should consider:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* =
Marriage in=20
  the <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">United =
States of=20
  America</st1:country-region></st1:place> shall consist of a union=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;between one=20
  man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam=20
  3:2-5.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* =
Marriage=20
  shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;addition to=20
  his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II=20
  Chron<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;11:21)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* A =
marriage=20
  shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin.=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;If =
the wife is=20
  not a virgin, she shall be taken to the gates of the=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;city =
and=20
  stoned to death. (Deut 22:13-21)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* =
Marriage of=20
  a believer and a non-believer shall be =
forbidden.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;(Gen =
24:3; Num=20
  25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30, 2Cor<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;6:14)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* =
Since=20
  marriage is for life, neither the US Constitution nor any=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;state law=20
  shall permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;10:9-12)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* If =
a married=20
  man dies without children, his brother must marry the=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;widow. If the=20
  brother refuses to marry the widow, or deliberately=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;does =
not give=20
  her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;otherwise=20
  punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;10; =
Deut=20
  25:5-10)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* In =
lieu of=20
  marriage (if there are no acceptable men to be found),=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;a =
woman shall=20
  get her father drunk and lie down with him to keep the=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;clan =
alive.=20
  (Gen 19:31-36)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* =
When you go=20
  to war and you see among the captives a beautiful girl=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;you =
want as=20
  your wife, take her home with you.&nbsp; She must shave her=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;head =
and pare=20
  her nails and change her clothing, laying aside that=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;which she was=20
  wearing when she was captured, then remain in your=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;house in=20
  mourning for her mother and father for a full month.&nbsp; After=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;which you can=20
  marry her.&nbsp; (Deut<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;21:10-13)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;* In =
a man=20
  rapes a girl who is not engaged, and is caught in the=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;act, =
he must=20
  pay a fine to the girl's father and marry her; he shall=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;never divorce=20
  her. (Deut. 22:28-29)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
hope this=20
  helps to clarify the finer details of the Government's=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;righteous=20
  struggle against the infidels and heathens among=20
  us.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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